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From Stefano Mazzocchi <>
Subject Re: XMLForms and Flowmap
Date Sat, 15 Jun 2002 15:52:07 GMT
Ivelin Ivanov wrote:
> Reinhard,
> We are looking for someone to step up and show us how these two can work
> together in a nice way.
> Interested?

I am.

IMNSHO, the flowmap should totally replace actions and deprecate them.

I've looked at XMLForms and I must say it looks extremely unfriendly to
my eyes. The reason? massive use of actions, which hide the flow logic
from the sitemap.

In the example I've seen, you use the same URI, passing the
cocoon-action parameter to trigger a different state.

I'm not against the concept, not at all, but I think that actions are
evil, bad, harder to use than it first seems and not RAD at all.

What I love about Ovidiu's work is the ability to use it even without
continuations: you are not forced to use continuations to store your
state and you can simply write your flow logic in javascript and run it,
instead of using actions, compile them, include them and so on.

So, I don't think they should work together at all: form validation
should be a cocoon component that you simply call from your flow logic.

Does it make sense?

Stefano Mazzocchi      One must still have chaos in oneself to be
                          able to give birth to a dancing star.
<>                             Friedrich Nietzsche

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