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From "Andrew C. Oliver" <acoli...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [LAW] Quick Lesson in Copyright Law (was RE: copyright for docs [was: Re: [Bugs] URLSource])
Date Mon, 20 May 2002 14:34:32 GMT
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>>My point: authors aren't placing "copyright by Apache..." text within 
>>their contribution source files. The Cocoon web site, by default, 
>>currently adds this copyright tag via transformation. Thus, we should 
>>make it very clear to authors (by pointing them to a revised 
>>contrib.xml, etc.) *before* they contribute. I'll go ahead and update 
>>instructions, templates, and contrib.xml, etc. as appropriate.
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>That can be a problem for items submitted via a patch, or from
>non-committers
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whine when the patch is submitted.  or ask them to at least explicitly 
state it in the bugzilla comments.  Or templatize the area where one 
puts "authors" and have it say "By adding your name here you explicitly 
assign your rights to the apache software foundation"  -- I'm certain 
this can be navigated.

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>>Otherwise, without this disclosure, it's *not* reasonable 
>>(from a legal 
>>perspective) for Apache to conclude authors are donating the 
>>copyright 
>>to their works. For example, what if an author contributes a 
>>work with 
>>personal copyright info already on it? We can't just assume 
>>the Apache 
>>copyright overrides it, can we, if we don't clarify copyright details 
>>ahead of time?
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>Committers are aware of the implications of their work in the CVS
>meaning that they implicitly donated the code to the ASF.  That is
>part of the agreement they are forced to sign.
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>>Seems to me if authors want to retain copyright to their works, they 
>>should publish them elsewhere. We can still provide links to such 
>>off-site works from the Cocoon web site.
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>Absolutely.  We should assume that if the documentation was submitted
>for inclusion in CVS, that those documents are donated to the ASF.  We
>do need a disclosure page (as you noted) that specifically says that.
>Therefore, no author can retain their right to extract royalties from
>their documentation if it is available freely on the Cocoon web site.
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yes.

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