Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-xml-cocoon-dev-archive@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 68488 invoked by uid 500); 17 Apr 2002 06:42:50 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cocoon-dev-help@xml.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 68477 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2002 06:42:50 -0000 From: "Carsten Ziegeler" To: Subject: RE: [vote] Diana Shannon as Documentation Coordinator Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 08:45:13 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3CBC17B2.919B723@apache.org> X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on PBSN1/Systeme und Netzwerke(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 17.04.2002 08:42:59, Serialize by Router on PBSN1/Systeme und Netzwerke(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 17.04.2002 08:43:01, Serialize complete at 17.04.2002 08:43:01 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Definitly a big +1 for having a 'documentation coordinator' and another +1 for you Diana doing this job. I would like to add another important point to the "job description": * Updating the Cocoon Web Site (= deploying new documentation). Cheers Carsten Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > > Ladies and Gentlemen, > > this is a somewhat atypical request for vote so it requires a deeper and > more detailed explaination. > > Cocoon has reached a point where its technical quality has far exceeded > its overall 'usability', in the sense of the ability for users to 'use > the system for their needs'. > > Many are expressing their concerns about the fact that Cocoon is a > developer framework, and the road to its use is normally so steep that > very few can manage to get everything out of it. > > The best way to lower the gap is to have better docs. Better means: > > 1) more coherent > 2) edited by people that knows the english language (since we use > english as our default natural language) and have editing skills > 3) maintained regularly > > I've been approached by Diana Shannon who has volunteered to step in and > help with the process of creating a better documentation. She explained > to me her intentions, her skills and her 'devotion to the cocoon cause' > (so to speak :). > > I've challenged her offering a 'documentation coordinator' job overhere. > Just like we have a 'release coordinator', I think it makes sense to > have a 'documentation coordinator'. > > The job includes: > > 1) planning and proposing a better (as defined above) documentation > outline > > 2) coordinating the authoring effort (means: kicking some asses if > people commit code without committing docs that go along with them: we > might go as far as prohibiting code submissions, even in the scratchpad, > without appropriate documentation along) > > 3) providing editing of existing docs (and future docs) > > 4) managing relationships between users and developers > > I personally think Diana is great for this job becuase: > > 1) she volunteered (in my book, this would be enough since nobody ever > did in one of my projects after 5 years of more of OSS... but there is > more) > > 2) her native language is English, but she has worked in many foreign > countries and she speaks several languages. > > 3) she has a medium understanding of Cocoon as a user. No developer can > have this job since he/she would loose the user's point of view. I think > Diana can be a mix between the two points of view and coordinate them so > that they converge. > > All right, at this point I stop and I ask Diana to chime in and present > herself. > > Ah, one more thing: she asked me if the community needed samples of her > skills to provide a vote and I admit it's a little strange to ask to > give commit access to somebody without having to do anything. > > Well, IMO, volunteering for such a critical yet hard job is enough of a > statement for my vote, so I vote +1 to have Diana 'documentation > coordinator' and grant commit access to her so that she can update the > docs directly. > > Of course, we, as a dev community, must make all possible efforts to > help her in those situations where she requires help. > > At the end, I'm overly pleased by proposing (finally!) a women in the > Cocoon Development community. > > So, Diana, please, introduce yourself and introduce your plan of action > (as you did with me privately) so that the rest of the community can > vote. > > Thanks. > > -- > Stefano Mazzocchi One must still have chaos in oneself to be > able to give birth to a dancing star. > Friedrich Nietzsche > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: cocoon-dev-unsubscribe@xml.apache.org > For additional commands, email: cocoon-dev-help@xml.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: cocoon-dev-unsubscribe@xml.apache.org For additional commands, email: cocoon-dev-help@xml.apache.org