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From Uli Mayring <>
Subject Re: Cocoon Marketing Position
Date Thu, 11 Apr 2002 00:00:06 GMT
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:

> Ulrich Mayring wrote:
> >
> > The strange thing is that in the days of Cocoon1 we were ready to
> > compete, simply because no other vendor had any tools to speak of (with
> > a few $$$ exceptions). Struts didn't really amount to much back then, so
> > they must have done something right to get where they are today.
> I disagree. I don't see how Cocoon1 was better than Cocoon2 for web
> applications.

I didn't say in absolute terms. But compared to the competition then and
now Cocoon1 did better. First results were quick to come by, simple web
apps were easy to build.

> Anyway don't forget one thing: as a publishing framework, we kick all
> the asses we can find, on the commercial world as well.

Yes, but to no avail. My impression is that companies don't want/need a
publishing framework, they want/need a CMS. And once they have that, the
publishing framework is usually included and Cocoon cannot be integrated.

I tried to push for Cocoon in our company, but the users outside of the
software dev department didn't want a piece of it. They want a nice GUI to
manage their content painlessly.


Ulrich Mayring
DENIC eG, Softwareentwicklung

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