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From Stefano Mazzocchi <stef...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Ranting on a Wednesday evening [was: RE: Cocoon MarketingPosition]
Date Thu, 11 Apr 2002 11:02:29 GMT
Uli Mayring wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Steven Noels wrote:
> 
> > * +/- 1800 mails / month on cocoon-dev
> > * admittedly, only +/- 1000 mails / month on cocoon-users
> 
> FWIW:
> 
> #absolute number of postings (03/2001 - 03/2002)
> /average number of postings per month for this 13-month period
> 
> user = user mailing list
> dev = developer mailing list
> 
> Project   #user   #dev   /user   /dev   ratio
> Xalan      1282   10825    99     833   0.2
> Ant       13829   18143  1064    1396   0.8
> Cocoon    14504   18083  1116    1387   0.8
> Velocity   5866    3938   451     303   1.5
> Tomcat    41090   20315  3160    1563   2.0
> Soap       8974    3355   690     258   2.7
> Struts    25535    5379  1964     414   4.7
> Zope      27651    5915  2127     455   4.7
> 
> Yep, Cocoon is definitely a developer technology. Users go elsewhere. Any
> other interpretations of these numbers?
> 
> Now let's take a look at the historical development of Cocoon's numbers. I
> have two 13-month periods here, the topmost is the one from above and
> below is the previous 13-month period:
> 
> Period     #user   #dev   /user   /dev   ratio
> 2001/2002  14504   18083  1116    1387   0.8
> 2000/2001  15664   10505  1205     808   1.5
> 
> While development has substantially increased, usage has remained
> constant. Conclusion?

Interesting figures.

Just one comment: would you venture to state that Ant is a developer
technology while Struts is a user technology?

Anyway, I would not imagine having to substain the pressure of that 4.7
ratio: it would definately place development to a halt and we are not
ready for that.

-- 
Stefano Mazzocchi      One must still have chaos in oneself to be
                          able to give birth to a dancing star.
<stefano@apache.org>                             Friedrich Nietzsche
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