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From Stefano Mazzocchi <>
Subject Re: continuation fear (was Re: [status & RT] design challenges)
Date Tue, 09 Apr 2002 15:41:07 GMT
Konstantin Piroumian wrote:

> Cocoon still loses users and it's very sad ;(

Ehm, don't know about you guys, but I feel this community rather
appreciated if people decide *not* to use the software, but decided to
keep subscribed on this list.

It's much better than in the past were people decided not to use Cocoon
for their webapps but they didn't even bother telling us why.

I really can't find anything to be sad about: struts (and turbine and
others) might be solid and extensively used webapp frameworks and Cocoon
forces you to a big paradigm shift compared to JSP.

Anyway, it's not proven that Cocoon increases productivity and reduces
development and maintenance costs.

But I believe that it can be proven (by experience) that Cocooon scales
much more the more people you add in the workgroup and the more
different skills they have (normally in webapp development, the group is
not much and the skills are pretty equal among the people involved).

Finally, two things: Cocoon is not 100% elegant for webapps and we are
prefectly aware of this, but we are working on it. And, last, it's
always a matter of taste and environment: if you find Cocoon useful, use
it, if not, well, don't :)

But IMHO, the fact that this community keeps on growing is *the* real
indication of the health of this project.

Stefano Mazzocchi      One must still have chaos in oneself to be
                          able to give birth to a dancing star.
<>                             Friedrich Nietzsche

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