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From Michael Wechner <coco...@wyona.org>
Subject Re: Wyona / Xopus (IE vs.Mozilla)
Date Wed, 13 Mar 2002 22:23:27 GMT


Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:

> Michael Wechner wrote:
> 
> 
>>I suggest that we help Laurens and Lon from Q42 getting
>>their functional specification online, such that we have
>>a common basis.
>>
> 
> Sure. This will be a great step to start.


Ok, let's talk to Lon at the conference how we can help them.


> 
> 
>>Nevertheless, here are some topics I would like to discuss:
>>
>>1) Context menu:
>>    You can find a scratch at: http://www.wyona.com/ia/Editors.gif
>>
>>    Actions on "elements" and "attributes": insert before, insert after,
>>append, delete, move down, move up.
>>     What part of the XML Schema do you show?
>>
>>2) How do you insert (link) multimedia objects
>>
>>3) If you have a list of articles for instance (referenced by
>>    XInclude), how do you insert a new one.
>>
>>4) How do you mix content with "deep" structure (not just a hypertext
>>link)? An example would be you want to "highlight" a person or an
>>organization within the text, but also want to bind more information to
>>it. Do you use XLink and how do you get this XLink into the content?
>>
> 
> I must be entirely honest with you, Michael: I have the perception that
> there are just a few person on this list who understand what you are
> talking about because they haven't seen Xopus in serious action.


Ok


> 
> Can't you provide a link for a working demo so that people can take a
> serious look about it?


I am working on it and try to make it ready as soon as possible.


> 
> Another nice thing would be to provide a sample to add to the Cocoon
> samples that we could ship with Cocoon disto, that would sure sparkle
> more and more discussions, also on the user list.


Sure, we can donate the server side, but the client side (which is
the actual Xopus), we would have to talk to Lon again. I tried to
convince him to opensource the current version we are using, but he
thinks his code is too messy and people would get frustrated.

Concerning the server side:
Do you have any policies how to write a sample?
We could provide you with something like:

wyona-xopus
  |
  +--sitemap.xmap
  |
  +--docs
  |   |
  |   +--data
  |   |    |
  |   |    +--helloworld.xml
  |   |    |
  |   |    +--newspaperarticle.xml
  |   |
  |   +--schemas
  |        |
  |        +--helloworld.xsd
  |        |
  |        +--newspaperarticle.xsd
  |
  +--stylesheets
  |   |
  |   +--helloworld.xsl
  |   |
  |   +--helloworld_xopus.xsl
  |   |
  |   +--newspaperarticle.xsl
  |   |
  |   +--newspaperarticle_xopus.xsl
  |
  +--resources
      |
      +--xopus
          |
          +--???

org.apache.cocoon.acting.WyonaXopusAction

I guess you would mount the "wyona-xopus-sitemap" from the cocoon sitemap.

What do you think?


> 
> I fear that without that 'contextualization' many might find the above
> details vary up in the air and might consider it noise.


Sure.

All the best

Michael



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