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From Michael Wechner <coco...@wyona.org>
Subject Re: Wyona / Xopus
Date Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:45:13 GMT


Sylvain Wallez wrote:

> Michael Wechner wrote:
>
>> Dear Sylvain
>>
>> Is your extension for Dreamweaver Open Source? 
>
>
> Nope. We have some internal discussions about opensourcing it, but 
> nothing has been decided yet. 


That's bad, but hope remains.

>
>
> Back in June 2001, there was a discussion on cocoon-users where I gave 
> more details about how it works. See 
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-users&m=99242156420770&w=2 


I will check it out

>
>
> We can also discuss this off-list.



ok

>
>
>> The Swiss Federal Institute of Technology is looking for a CMS, and
>> the race will be decided between Wyona CMS (based on Cocoon2) and
>> Kontentor (based on Zope).
>>
>> One of the main criteria is that "XSLT" can be edited with 
>> Dreamweaver by
>> Designers. We thought of a similar solution like you probably already 
>> have,
>> but just didn't have the time to implement yet.
>
>
> Does Zope provide such a feature ? 


Yes, I think it does:

http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ZPT/FrontPage

http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ZPT/TutorialPart1




>> Your extension sounds like very good news to me.
>
>
> :-)
>
>> All the best
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> Sylvain Wallez wrote:
>>
>>> memo wrote:
>>>
> <snip/>
>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand, I agree that the Xopus-kinda-stuff is immensely 
>>>> more
>>>> sexy, and the Wyona CMS will definitely have at least one way to do 
>>>> some
>>>> fancy inline editing. Even a way to do style editing in the same 
>>>> wysiwyg,
>>>> inline way is planned for the future, as the general belief is that 
>>>> you
>>>> cannot really rely on designers to be able to write proper XSL 
>>>> stylesheets.
>>>> Just this morning, we have also been discussing about something like a
>>>> Velocity2XsltTransformer. Then, at least, designers would have the
>>>> possibility to use commercial tools like Dreamweaver to do their 
>>>> stuff. Any
>>>> comments on that?
>>>>
>>> Yep. Just as graphic designers can't write JSP, they can't write XSL 
>>> and you can't forbid them to use the commercial productivity tools 
>>> they like.
>>>
>>> In my company, we have extended Dreamweaver so that designers can 
>>> place in their web pages some non-html attributes and elements that 
>>> allows the "augmented page" to be compiled in an XSL stylesheet. 
>>> These annotations are tied to a particular DTD of the input 
>>> document, and we have various annotation sets for various DTDs (this 
>>> is a concept similar to XSP taglibs).
>>>
>>> This allows designers to use a wysiwyg graphical editor, and "write" 
>>> XSL stylesheets without having to know the XSL language.
>>>
>>> <snip/>
>>>
>>> Sylvain
>>>
> Sylvain
>



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