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From Sylvain Wallez <sylvain.wal...@anyware-tech.com>
Subject Re: Wyona / Xopus
Date Mon, 11 Mar 2002 08:57:10 GMT
Michael Wechner wrote:

> Dear Sylvain
>
> Is your extension for Dreamweaver Open Source? 

Nope. We have some internal discussions about opensourcing it, but 
nothing has been decided yet.

Back in June 2001, there was a discussion on cocoon-users where I gave 
more details about how it works. See 
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-users&m=99242156420770&w=2

We can also discuss this off-list.

> The Swiss Federal Institute of Technology is looking for a CMS, and
> the race will be decided between Wyona CMS (based on Cocoon2) and
> Kontentor (based on Zope).
>
> One of the main criteria is that "XSLT" can be edited with Dreamweaver by
> Designers. We thought of a similar solution like you probably already 
> have,
> but just didn't have the time to implement yet.

Does Zope provide such a feature ?

> Your extension sounds like very good news to me.

:-)

> All the best
>
> Michael
>
>
> Sylvain Wallez wrote:
>
>> memo wrote:
>>
<snip/>

>>>
>>>
>>> On the other hand, I agree that the Xopus-kinda-stuff is immensely more
>>> sexy, and the Wyona CMS will definitely have at least one way to do 
>>> some
>>> fancy inline editing. Even a way to do style editing in the same 
>>> wysiwyg,
>>> inline way is planned for the future, as the general belief is that you
>>> cannot really rely on designers to be able to write proper XSL 
>>> stylesheets.
>>> Just this morning, we have also been discussing about something like a
>>> Velocity2XsltTransformer. Then, at least, designers would have the
>>> possibility to use commercial tools like Dreamweaver to do their 
>>> stuff. Any
>>> comments on that?
>>>
>> Yep. Just as graphic designers can't write JSP, they can't write XSL 
>> and you can't forbid them to use the commercial productivity tools 
>> they like.
>>
>> In my company, we have extended Dreamweaver so that designers can 
>> place in their web pages some non-html attributes and elements that 
>> allows the "augmented page" to be compiled in an XSL stylesheet. 
>> These annotations are tied to a particular DTD of the input document, 
>> and we have various annotation sets for various DTDs (this is a 
>> concept similar to XSP taglibs).
>>
>> This allows designers to use a wysiwyg graphical editor, and "write" 
>> XSL stylesheets without having to know the XSL language.
>>
>> <snip/>
>>
>> Sylvain
>>
Sylvain

-- 
Sylvain Wallez
  Anyware Technologies                  Apache Cocoon
  http://www.anyware-tech.com           mailto:sylvain@apache.org




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