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From Michael Wechner <>
Subject Re: Wyona / Xopus
Date Fri, 08 Mar 2002 11:26:31 GMT
There is something similar to Xopus running already on Netscape, written
by the "bitflux" guys ( but it is not Open Source yet.
The will present it at the Open Source CMS conference 
on March 21-22.

But as I know from the demo I have seen once, it is not capable of 
validating XML
by schemas, which Xopus is able to do. And this a very important 
feature, because
you don't want to let editors do whatever they want. Another big plus is 
that Xopus
is now running together with the former version of Wyona CMS for nearly 
one year at one
of the biggest newspaper of Switzerland (Neue Zuercher Zeitung, and
it has really proven itself, because those editors are certainly 
"computer dummies" in a positive
sense of way.

But I certainly want a version which is running with Mozilla and not 
just IE, and which
is running on Mac of course.

We started documenting the existing interface between Wyona and Xopus. 
The most current
version can be found if you use the public CVS of Wyona 

Wyona's HTML Form Editor is actually using the same techniques like 
Xopus just that things
are executed on the server side and not in the client.

I will try to set up a demo version on one of our servers,
where you will be able to test Xopus together with Wyona CMS.

All the best



Matt Sergeant wrote:

>On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Ugo Cei wrote:
>>Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
>>>Xopus is awesome because is entirely XML/XSLT/XMLSchema driven.
>>>Everything running on the client side and posting XML results
>>>(validated!) back. The XML is the model, the XSLT is the view and the
>>>XMLSchema is the controller. MVC at the inline editing level. Brilliant,
>>>elegant and great!
>>>There's no way out: Mozilla is the key. We must find a way to implement
>>>Xopus concepts into Mozilla.
>>Does this mean that we need to integrate Xerces (C++ ?) and Xalan (C++
>>?) in Mozilla?
>Mozilla already has a full DOM (level 2) and XSLT (not 100%, but not bad).
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