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From Davanum Srinivas <d...@yahoo.com>
Subject RE: [VOTE] Seperate Contrib/optional area/cvs (was: RE: POI Serialization code committed)
Date Tue, 12 Mar 2002 12:16:55 GMT
I agree with Carsten:

+1 (seperate the contrib/optional stuff from core?)
-1 (Should it be located in a seperate cvs?)

--- Carsten Ziegeler <cziegeler@s-und-n.de> wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Morrison, John [mailto:John.Morrison@uk.experian.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:11 AM
> > To: 'cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org'
> > Subject: [VOTE] Seperate Contrib/optional area/cvs (was: RE: POI
> > Serialization code committed)
> > 
> > 
> > OK, lets split this thread.
> > 
> > Should we seperate the contrib/optional stuff from core?
> > 
> > +1
> 
> Interesting, history repeats. Ok, I started a vote on this several
> months ago and noone voted +1..sniff..
> 
> Before I can give my +1 I'm interested in how you will handle the
> optional jar files. For example if you have two optional components
> which both require the same optional jar? Has each component it's
> own lib directory, do they share a common lib directory?
> 
> > 
> > Should it be located in a seperate cvs?
> > 
> > +1
> > 
> -1
> 
> See Thorstens reply.
> 
> Carsten
> 
> 
> > J.
> > 
> > > From: Sylvain Wallez [mailto:sylvain.wallez@anyware-tech.com]
> > > Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> > > >From: "Steven Noels" <stevenn@outerthought.org>
> > > >>Andy wrote:
> > > >>>Steven wrote:
> > > >>>>So I am all unofficial +1 for having a separate module for
Cocoon
> > > >>>>contributions, where we can add the POI integration work, 
> > > if enough
> > > >>>>people step up as a maintainer.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>+1 if there are enough to justify it.
> > > >>>
> > > >>I hope the remainder of my arguments are not lost, however. This is
> > > >>suboptimal solution until POI admits it really should become part of
> > > >>their own codebase. Only the real Cocoon-specific classes should
> > > >>eventually go into the contrib section of Cocoon CVS. POI 
> > > supporting XML
> > > >>is not in scope for Cocoon, neither.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >Cocoon is becoming overcrowded with optional components, and 
> > > this is a fact.
> > > >For this, I think that we need a contrib section, which is 
> > > optimal for
> > > >Cocoon IMHO. In the near future it will be the famous "Cocoon Blocks"
> > > >section.
> > > >
> > > >I'm +1 for this. I'm refactoring examples in this direction, 
> > > and will commit
> > > >ASAP.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > +1 also. But IMO we should distinguish "contrib" and "optional" :
> > > - "contrib" means donated (and accepted) code that didn't 
> > > find a better 
> > > place, but is not actively maintained by the Cocoon team,
> > > - "optional" means code that is related to a third party 
> > > library that is 
> > > isn't core to Cocoon, and supported and maintained by the team.
> > > 
> > > We have also to be very careful that these sections don't 
> > > become a giant 
> > > mess, and that they have good visibility so that users know 
> > > what's inside.
> > 
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