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From "Theodore W. Leung" <twle...@sauria.com>
Subject RE: Everywhere licences
Date Fri, 15 Mar 2002 18:27:01 GMT
I'm still nervous about Jisp because the license says source only and
not binary, where many licenses explictly license binary distribution as
well.  Any other PMC members (Dirk) have a good answer here?

Ted 

On Thu, 2002-03-14 at 12:57, Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
> > From: Theodore W. Leung [mailto:twleung@sauria.com]
> > 
> > As I recall, Dirk was the one who suggested licenses next to the jar
> > files -- this is what all the other XML projects are doing.
> > 
> > FOP did not resolve their license issue with Jimi -- they decided to
> put
> > a "go here and download Jimi from Sun" readme file in.
> > 
> > Also, you guys still have an issue with Jisp, because the license only
> > covers source distribution, not binary -- kind of like djb's Qmail
> > license.
> 
> We already have been there. Recently. Please see attached email. And:
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-dev&m=101506013000870&w=2
> 
> Regards,
> Vadim
> 
> > 
> > Ted
> > 
> > On Wed, 2002-03-13 at 05:01, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
> > > > Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > why do we have all these licences in different places, most (all?)
> > > > of them are in the legal directory, but some are also(!) in the
> > > > lib/core and lib/optional directory.
> > > >
> > > > And some are even misnamed (we have xalan 2.2.0 licence, but
> > > > xalan 2.3.1 jar; same with xerces etc.)
> > > >
> > > > Can we sort this out?
> > >
> > > "Morrison, John" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > A higher authority spoke.
> > > >
> > > > Can't remember who put them in, but I didn't recognise the
> username.
> > > > Check the CVS history.
> > >
> > > Ted Leung did, on behalf of the XML PMC.
> > >
> > > But I completely agree with Carsten: dear PMC, please, tell us: is
> it
> > > fine to have *all* the legal stuff in the /legal directory instead
> of
> > > having it intermixed with the rest of the jars and such?
> > >
> > > Can we go ahead and remove those licenses in /lib and just go on on
> > > /legal as we have been doing in the past?
> > >
> > > Moreover: did the FOP project resolve the issue with the JIMI
> library
> > > which is currently the only one we have legal problems with?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Stefano Mazzocchi      One must still have chaos in oneself to be
> > >                           able to give birth to a dancing star.
> > > <stefano@apache.org>                             Friedrich Nietzsche
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> ----
> 

> From: Vadim Gritsenko <vadim.gritsenko@verizon.net>
> To: 'Theodore W. Leung' <twleung@sauria.com>
> Cc: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org, Stefano Mazzocchi <stefano@apache.org>
> Subject: RE: removal of jar files in coccon CVS
> Date: 01 Mar 2002 22:05:57 -0500
> 
> > From: Theodore W. Leung [mailto:twleung@sauria.com]
> > 
> > Ok,
> > 
> > I've looked in legal, but I don't agree that the licenses are all
> sorted
> > out.  In particular:
> > 
> > The license for Jimi doesn't allow us to distribute it.
> > The License for Jisp covers source but not binary distribution
> 
> Regarding JISP:
> 
> http://www.coyotegulch.com/jisp/#License:
> --------------8<--------------
> Scott's Very Free License
> 
> The following license applies to the entire Jisp package, and is
> included in jisp_1_0_2_distro.jar and all source files contained
> therein:
> --------------8<--------------
> 
> Does this resolve the issue? Should this be mentioned in the license
> itself?
> 
> Vadim
> 
>  
> > Ted
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 2002-03-01 at 15:22, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
> > > "Theodore W. Leung" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I've just completed adding license files for all the ASF licensed
> jars
> > > > that are present in the cocoon1 and cocoon2 repositories.  Any
> jars
> > > > without license files will be removed from CVS early next week.
> > >
> > > Ted,
> > >
> > > FYI, we have placed all of our legal stuff over to
> xml-cocoon2/legal/
> > > so, please, don't remove anything from that repository since we have
> all
> > > of our licenses well sort out.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Stefano Mazzocchi      One must still have chaos in oneself to be
> > >                           able to give birth to a dancing star.
> > > <stefano@apache.org>                             Friedrich Nietzsche
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------



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