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From Stefano Mazzocchi <>
Subject Re: [RT] Cocoon subcomponent object model (was: Re: is cocoon symmetry a holy grail?)
Date Wed, 20 Feb 2002 14:08:18 GMT
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:

> > And this should be KISS?
> Ok, so let me explain it from a sitemap view.
> You can add a parameter parallel="true" to make queries run simultaneously.
> Simple enough?

In order to use something you have to understand how it works.

For a cocoon pipeline, the concept is simple.

With the system you are proposing I see this simplicity greatly reduced,
no matter how simple is the semantic that turns it on.

> > > B----------------------------
> > > A global context-aware object broker could also be inserted in the
> scheme.
> > > This doesn't really change the framework, it's just a useful addition.
> >
> > Don't forget we can still use Alberto's X:Forge for this.
> Where is it? <hint, hint, nudge, nudge ;-)>

Where is has always been.

> > > C----------------------------
> > > Now let's explain how a finer-grained object model can be devised.
> > > First of all it must be capable of specifying a pipeline component as a
> sum
> > > of smaller components possibly only by writing XML described "glue".
> > > I's like:
> ...
> > What you propose is similar to X:Forge and to DXML that Ricardo was
> > working on (I say 'was' because I can't reach him anymore :( but was
> > much simpler:
> Similar yes. I still remember the very interesting brainstorming I had with
> them on these.
> > I'd rather attach X:Forge to Cocoon (at the generation level) than
> > having to write something so complex at the pipeline level.
> X:Forge is ok for me, but where is it? Can you put it in the scratchpad?

You are the one proposing this, not me :)

Supply a patch :)
> > I think the tokenize/detokenize part are really far from my view of
> > keeping it simple and go into a deep mess.
> Ok. Could be true.
> Only live code can be really discussed, we'll continue this at that time.


Stefano Mazzocchi      One must still have chaos in oneself to be
                          able to give birth to a dancing star.
<>                             Friedrich Nietzsche

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