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From Jason Foster <>
Subject Re: [RT] Componentizing Cocoon Applications
Date Sun, 03 Feb 2002 17:12:04 GMT

Gut, snap reactions:

- This feels like it relates to the work of the W3 TAG (Technical 
Architecture Group)
- I don't know from where the Avalon developers obtained their visions, 
but they seem to have hit a sweet spot with respect to flexibility and 
rigour.  I think it will be very difficult to find a similar sweet spot 
for Cocoon (which shouldn't stop the attempt!) given what I see as the 
primitive nature of most web development... Perl print statements are 
*still* the dominant form!
- Documentation and examples will be absolutely vital.  SoC, IoC, and 
contracts are still difficult for me to understand, and I've been trying 
for a while now.  Granted I'm not the most astute programmer, but I don't 
think I'm that bad.  These concepts seem more like practices, and as such 
exist more in documentation and examples than in interfaces and classes.
- On a picky note, I would prefer a polymorphic syntax that doesn't mess 
with the specification for URLs ... we've become pretty good about leaving 
these alone so why stop now?  A subprotocol might be a good choice (eg. 
- Let's get cracking so that the content-management group can produce that 
tool I'm waiting for :)

Jason Foster

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