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From Sylvain Wallez <sylvain.wal...@anyware-tech.com>
Subject Re: [vote] Finer-grained logging categories (was: Re: Over-Logging)
Date Thu, 03 Jan 2002 17:08:51 GMT


giacomo a écrit :
> 
> On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Sylvain Wallez wrote:
> 
> > giacomo wrote:
> >
> > <snip/>
> >
> >
> > >>>>The only drawback is that LogKit complains about categories not
> > >>>>explicitly declared in logkit.xconf. Maybe LogKit shouldn't be so
picky
> > >>>>about that and just act as a configuration front-end to Hierarchy
(i.e.
> > >>>>remove the m_loggers HashMap).
> > >>>>
> > >>>This can be fixed (I wrote it) but IIRC it's a debugging (or should
> > >>>be) message and thus might be helpfull in that aspect.
> > >>>
> > >>I would be thankful if you fix it, because it produces a _warning_
> > >>message each time a component asks for a logger that's not in the
> > >>configuration-defined categories.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Ok, I've reduced from WARN to DEBUG and will commit it soon into C2.
> > >
> > > Giacomo
> > >
> >
> > Thanks, Giacomo, but I was saying that IMHO, LogKitManager shouldn't
> > even care about that. It's role is to configure a Hierarchy (most often
> > its top-level categories) and give access to this hierarchy to get
> > loggers, but the definition of categories is the responsibility of
> > xconf/sitemap writers.
> 
> Right, and thus debugging messages are quite usefull for that.
> 
> > With the hierarchized categories we will now have (many +1 for this
> > vote), LogKitManager will issue a great number of debug messages which
> > don't give any usefull information.
> 
> I don't agree about "don't give any usefull information". The
> information is that there could be other categories/hierarchies to
> possibly taken care of with a different logkit configuration. And, hey,
> they're "only" debugging messages. Have you ever run a SAMBA server or a
> Squid proxy in debugging mode? Do you think that information is usefull
> for you? Probably not, because you are not used to that kind of
> information. But is common to debugging messages that not everybody is
> able to understand. So my proposal is to move to INFO level instead.
> 
> Giacomo

Mmmh... seems I irritated you with "any usefull" :/

So let's keep it, but please as debug.

Sylvain.
-- 
Sylvain Wallez
Anyware Technologies - http://www.anyware-tech.com

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