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From "Robert Koberg" <>
Subject Re: Understanding cocoon ......
Date Thu, 10 Jan 2002 14:24:43 GMT

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stefano Mazzocchi" <>
> Christoph Henrici wrote:
> >
> >   I have been studying, testing and playing around with cocoon in the
> > last few days as a newcomer : i am greatly impressed with what ease with
> > cocoon "pipelines" arbrary data sources can be "chained" to a result
> > target: a very powerful paradigm (pipe) applied in a powerful context
> > (http) by using great technology (xml, xlst).
> Yep, I think you really hit the point. Some people believe that it's
> enough to add server side transformation capabilities (say, adding a
> XSLT post-processor as a servlet filter!) to come up with a publishing
> framework.

I guess I am one of those :)  But I guess you are talking about much broader
publishing needs. It is all relative.

I have not used cocoon2 yet. I had very bad experiences adopting cocoon1
(right when it came out -- MacMillan's - god, I wish I
could take that one back :( for many things besides cocoon's PIs - my first
"real" web-site...). When I understand what I needed (too late) I realized
that cocoon was the furthest thing. I am hoping to gather this info about
cocoon2 from you guys (and maybe throw my 2cents in every now and then :).
It sounds like you have a fantastic product. I would have installed it to
play around with but all the other things you need... Then again, all the
buzz makes it very interesting.

I wonder if cocoon is bloatware, at least for my needs.  When working with a
small team (say 5-10 people spread out all over the world, well, US and
England) servlets and xslt/xml seem to do everything I need.  They work on
it dynamicially and then generate it as a static site whenever they want.
And I would bet there are few people who can create a large content-based
site faster. My sites (large publishing companies) are perhaps well-suited
to this though and other sites are perhaps better suited to cocoon.

Why scoff something that works?
Why is it a bad thing?


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