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From giacomo <giac...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [Fwd: freshmeat project listing for Cocoon]
Date Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:45:47 GMT
On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Gianugo Rabellino wrote:

> Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
>
> > Now, I'd be *VERY* happy to pass over the hand to somebody else who is
> > willing to keep the project entry alive and not vegetating as it is
> > right now.
> >
> > This should be done along with Cocoon 2.0 final to show the renewed
> > development life of this project.
> >
> > What do you think? any committer volunteering for this?
>
> I think that Carsten is the right man for the job and that he's right
> when he says that this task should be in the "release manager" hands.
>
> As a side note, I must confess that I don't like that much the "About"
> part, I think that it can and should be rephrased to reflect what Cocoon
> really is.
>
> This is the original content:
>
> About: Cocoon is a pure Java publishing framework servlet that relies on
> DOM, SAX, XML, and XSL to provide web content. Web content generation is
> mostly based on HTML. Cocoons changes this view allowing content to be
> written in XML, style on XSL stylesheets and logic in another XSL
> stylesheet that converts the whole thing to the XSP namespace. This
> allows the complete separation of the three layers used to create
> content. The Cocoon framework creates web content by processing these
> layers with the ability to create, for example, valid HTML as output.
>
> I see at least the following issues with it:
>
> 1. Cocoon is not a servlet, this is severely limiting the power of Cocoon.
>
> 2. "Web content generation is mostly based on HTML"??? 'nuff said...
>
> 3. "Cocoons changes this view allowing content to be written in XML,
> style on XSL stylesheets and logic in another XSL stylesheet that
> converts the whole thing to the XSP namespace". Ugly, to say the least.
>
> I think that such description is poor, wrong and troublesome. I think
> also that it's worth the effort to spend some time investigating juicy
> alternatives that might be attractive to newcomers and people willing to
> know what Cocoon is. The same snippet should be placed in the project
> home page in place of the negative presentation that it's present now.
>
> Here is a small suggestion for a change:
>
> "Apache Cocoon is a XML publishing framework leveraging the power of the
> latest XML technologies. Designed for performance and scalability around
> the SAX event model, Cocoon offers a flexible and powerful environment
> based on the separation of concerns between content, logic and style and
> on a central configuration file which drives the whole processing.
> Cocoon is able to interact with most data sources (from filesystems to
> RDBMS, from LDAP to native XML databases) and to serve the content to
> different devices in different formats (HTML, WML, PDF, SVG, RTF just to
> name a few). Cocoon can be used both as a servlet or in a standalone
> fashion."

Awesome, +1!!

Giacomo

>
> Please, consider this a quick note written in five minutes, and feel
> free to elaborate on it, steal from it or just throw it away. But
> please, let's change that "About" snippet ASAP :)
>
> Ciao,
>
>


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