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From Uli Mayring <>
Subject Re: [RT] Integrating Cocoon with WebDAV
Date Sun, 04 Nov 2001 00:43:41 GMT
On Sat, 3 Nov 2001, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:

> Ulrich Mayring wrote:
> > Rather I think Avalon/Phoenix
> > are a better choice for the framework, they do not make nearly as many
> > assumptions as the Cocoon framework does.
> Much more after this, but this is vital: Ulrich, what you consider "many
> assumptions" about Cocoon, I consider it "carefully designed vertical
> framework".


with all due respect, there is another difference: Cocoon is a web
application framework, whereas Avalon is a generic server framework. So
the logical thing would be to put non-Web parts into Avalon (like XML
Parser etc.) and Web things into Cocoon (Sitemap).

> At the same time, as I said, it makes perfect sense to both:
>  1) extract some of Cocoon components and move them into avalon since
> they are "horizontal" enough. (XML Parser, XSLT processor, even
> programming language generation or FO handling)

Yes, that is exactly what I mean.

>  2) encapsulate the Cocoon core engine into a block (if the
> functionality and IoC design is not compromised) [but it may be
> extremely tricky since we have to provide the Cocoon environemnt classes
> into Avalon and this is going to be painful]

In my mind the core Cocoon engine could also be a .sar or WAR application,
it does not have to be a single block. 


Ulrich Mayring
DENIC eG, Softwareentwicklung

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