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From Stefano Mazzocchi <>
Subject Re: [shameless plug] My BIO and more...
Date Sun, 25 Nov 2001 23:37:19 GMT
Sam Ruby wrote:
> Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
> >
> > The Apache spirit is all about communities.
> And, as Robert Frost would add "good fences make good neighbors".  The
> corollary being that one should respect one's contracts.


> > A short story: when I first entered the Apache world, I was scared to
> > death by the *mythical* flame-rate on "new-httpd" (the list where the
> > Apache HTTPD project was born and was developpped), so much so that I
> > *never* ever wrote a single email on that list.
> Chuckle.  When I first entered the Apache world, my first greeting was a
> flame by Stefano as I desired at the time to make Tomcat 3.0 better.  My
> sin?  

No, mine. I was extremely disappointed by the health of the Tomcat
effort in terms of community diversity (and I still am, BTW) and I took
your effort from the wrong side on a very nervous period (I was
receiving 800 email messages a day just from Apache, just before I
resigned from jakarta PMC)

> I also happen to accept monetary compensation from IBM.
> > I owe everything I am to the friends that helped me during my Apache
> > journey: Federico Barbieri, Pierpaolo Fumagalli, Fabrizio Rovelli, Jon
> > Stevens, Brian Behlendorf, James Davidson, Donald Ball, Ricardo Rocha,
> > Giacomo Pati, Roy Fielding, Sam Ruby, and thousands of others.
> Hey!  How'd my name get in there?  <grin>


Sam was the individual who took less time to move thru the entire phases
under the ASF, how long did it took you to receive membership after
subscribing to the tomcat mail list?

> Relative to Cocoon, I wrote the PHP side code that allows PHP to be run as
> a servlet.  And the Cocoon side code that allows this servlet to be used as
> a generator.
> If you want to see some bio on me, here's some links with pictures:
> Relative to Apache, my passion at the moment is to see if there is any way
> to bootstrap these isolated subproject communities into a larger community.
> I'm chair of Jakarta, and a member of the XML PMC.  The most tangible
> realization of my efforts is .  I'm making
> progress on getting subprojects to respect their contracts, but I still see
> three jars in cocoon's cvs with dates instead of release numbers on them.
> Sigh.

It takes time, buddy, it take time.
> I also spend a good amount of time thinking about web services, including
> coding and trying to bootstrap a community for this here at ApacheLand.  I
> see web services as a platform and language independent component
> architecture.

Sam has way more hats to wear than he's showing in this email, is he
getting shy? :)

Stefano Mazzocchi      One must still have chaos in oneself to be
                          able to give birth to a dancing star.
<>                             Friedrich Nietzsche

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