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From Gianugo Rabellino <gian...@rabellino.it>
Subject Re: [Fwd: freshmeat project listing for Cocoon]
Date Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:45:56 GMT
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:

> Now, I'd be *VERY* happy to pass over the hand to somebody else who is
> willing to keep the project entry alive and not vegetating as it is
> right now.
> 
> This should be done along with Cocoon 2.0 final to show the renewed
> development life of this project.
> 
> What do you think? any committer volunteering for this?

I think that Carsten is the right man for the job and that he's right 
when he says that this task should be in the "release manager" hands.

As a side note, I must confess that I don't like that much the "About" 
part, I think that it can and should be rephrased to reflect what Cocoon 
really is.

This is the original content:

About: Cocoon is a pure Java publishing framework servlet that relies on 
DOM, SAX, XML, and XSL to provide web content. Web content generation is 
mostly based on HTML. Cocoons changes this view allowing content to be 
written in XML, style on XSL stylesheets and logic in another XSL 
stylesheet that converts the whole thing to the XSP namespace. This 
allows the complete separation of the three layers used to create 
content. The Cocoon framework creates web content by processing these 
layers with the ability to create, for example, valid HTML as output.

I see at least the following issues with it:

1. Cocoon is not a servlet, this is severely limiting the power of Cocoon.

2. "Web content generation is mostly based on HTML"??? 'nuff said...

3. "Cocoons changes this view allowing content to be written in XML, 
style on XSL stylesheets and logic in another XSL stylesheet that 
converts the whole thing to the XSP namespace". Ugly, to say the least.

I think that such description is poor, wrong and troublesome. I think 
also that it's worth the effort to spend some time investigating juicy 
alternatives that might be attractive to newcomers and people willing to 
know what Cocoon is. The same snippet should be placed in the project 
home page in place of the negative presentation that it's present now.

Here is a small suggestion for a change:

"Apache Cocoon is a XML publishing framework leveraging the power of the 
latest XML technologies. Designed for performance and scalability around 
the SAX event model, Cocoon offers a flexible and powerful environment 
based on the separation of concerns between content, logic and style and 
on a central configuration file which drives the whole processing. 
Cocoon is able to interact with most data sources (from filesystems to 
RDBMS, from LDAP to native XML databases) and to serve the content to 
different devices in different formats (HTML, WML, PDF, SVG, RTF just to 
name a few). Cocoon can be used both as a servlet or in a standalone 
fashion."

Please, consider this a quick note written in five minutes, and feel 
free to elaborate on it, steal from it or just throw it away. But 
please, let's change that "About" snippet ASAP :)

Ciao,

-- 
Gianugo Rabellino




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