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From Davanum Srinivas <d...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: [Fwd: freshmeat project listing for Cocoon]
Date Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:48:42 GMT
Here's my +1. It should also go our default page at the top (http://xml.apache.org/cocoon2).

Thanks,
dims

--- giacomo <giacomo@apache.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Gianugo Rabellino wrote:
> 
> > Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
> >
> > > Now, I'd be *VERY* happy to pass over the hand to somebody else who is
> > > willing to keep the project entry alive and not vegetating as it is
> > > right now.
> > >
> > > This should be done along with Cocoon 2.0 final to show the renewed
> > > development life of this project.
> > >
> > > What do you think? any committer volunteering for this?
> >
> > I think that Carsten is the right man for the job and that he's right
> > when he says that this task should be in the "release manager" hands.
> >
> > As a side note, I must confess that I don't like that much the "About"
> > part, I think that it can and should be rephrased to reflect what Cocoon
> > really is.
> >
> > This is the original content:
> >
> > About: Cocoon is a pure Java publishing framework servlet that relies on
> > DOM, SAX, XML, and XSL to provide web content. Web content generation is
> > mostly based on HTML. Cocoons changes this view allowing content to be
> > written in XML, style on XSL stylesheets and logic in another XSL
> > stylesheet that converts the whole thing to the XSP namespace. This
> > allows the complete separation of the three layers used to create
> > content. The Cocoon framework creates web content by processing these
> > layers with the ability to create, for example, valid HTML as output.
> >
> > I see at least the following issues with it:
> >
> > 1. Cocoon is not a servlet, this is severely limiting the power of Cocoon.
> >
> > 2. "Web content generation is mostly based on HTML"??? 'nuff said...
> >
> > 3. "Cocoons changes this view allowing content to be written in XML,
> > style on XSL stylesheets and logic in another XSL stylesheet that
> > converts the whole thing to the XSP namespace". Ugly, to say the least.
> >
> > I think that such description is poor, wrong and troublesome. I think
> > also that it's worth the effort to spend some time investigating juicy
> > alternatives that might be attractive to newcomers and people willing to
> > know what Cocoon is. The same snippet should be placed in the project
> > home page in place of the negative presentation that it's present now.
> >
> > Here is a small suggestion for a change:
> >
> > "Apache Cocoon is a XML publishing framework leveraging the power of the
> > latest XML technologies. Designed for performance and scalability around
> > the SAX event model, Cocoon offers a flexible and powerful environment
> > based on the separation of concerns between content, logic and style and
> > on a central configuration file which drives the whole processing.
> > Cocoon is able to interact with most data sources (from filesystems to
> > RDBMS, from LDAP to native XML databases) and to serve the content to
> > different devices in different formats (HTML, WML, PDF, SVG, RTF just to
> > name a few). Cocoon can be used both as a servlet or in a standalone
> > fashion."
> 
> Awesome, +1!!
> 
> Giacomo
> 
> >
> > Please, consider this a quick note written in five minutes, and feel
> > free to elaborate on it, steal from it or just throw it away. But
> > please, let's change that "About" snippet ASAP :)
> >
> > Ciao,
> >
> >
> 
> 
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