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From: "Morrison, John" <John.Morrison@uk.experian.com>
To: "'cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org'" <cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org>
Subject: RE: [C2] jar files
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:11:05 +0100
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Piroumian, Konstantin [mailto:KPiroumian@flagship.ru]
> Sent: Thursday, 28 June 2001 13:06
> To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [C2] jar files
> 
> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've been looking at the jar files which C2 uses and I've 
> some questions
> (no
> > surprise there ;)...
> >
> > I'm creating a webapp which *only* serves XML.  No SVG, 
> jpg, pdf, just
> XML.
> > So I was looking to see which jar's I can remove and wondered if a
> document
> > which stated something along the lines of jar XXX is 
> required for the
> > functionality YYY, ZZZ etc... would be useful?  It would 
> certainly cut
> down
> > the size of my war file and accelerate load times although 
> the largest by
> > far is javac.
> 
> I'm faced the same problem. From what I leart I can give an 
> approximate list
> of jars that you need for "minimal Cocoon" only, please correct me, if
> anything is incorrect:
> 
> avalon-excalibur.jar [Avalon Excalibur]
> avalon-framework.jar [Avalon framework]
> cocoon-2.1-dev.jar [Cocoon engine]
> dom2.jar [W3C DOM interfaces]
> jakarta-regexp-1.2.jar [Regular expressions lib]
> jstyle.jar [jStyle] - not sure that this jar is necessary, 
> but it's used
> somewhere inside Cocoon
> logkit-1.0b2.jar [apache LogKit]
> maybeupload.jar [File upload support] - this jar is required for HTML
> serialization.
> velocity-1.1-rc1.jar - it contains an additional class from 
> LogKit (see
> below)
> xalan_2_2.jar - you know (can be replaced by other XSLT transformer)
> xerces1_4_0.jar - you know this too (this can be replaced by 
> another parser,
> isn't it?)
> 
> >
> > Also, and this is prob directed to the wrong people, why 
> does the velocity
> > jar include so many other apache projects?  Shouldn't the 
> jar files for
> them
> > be included seperately so they can be kept upto date?  For 
> example I can
> see
> > jakarta-commons/collections, jakarta-avalon-logkit and 
> jakarta-oro.  I do
> > wonder if this is the case with any others...?
> 
> About the velocity I have the same question. What is it for 
> and why does it
> contain LogKit and more over, it contains an extra
> org.apache.log.output.ServletOutputLogTarget.class which is 
> absent in the
> separate LogKit jar.
> 
> >
> > Note that logkit is included as a separate jar and only the 
> alphabetical
> > order of names keeps new functionality in front of velocity old.
> 
> But Cocoon doesn't work without the velocity lib, because it uses the
> ServletOutputLogTarget class.

I'll see if I can trace this.  It's still worrying that velocity contains at
_least_ 3 other jakarta projects...!

> >
> > Thoughts?
> 
> I think that a list with explanation of every jar in C2 will 
> be very useful.
> I don't know, e.g., what are they Axis jars for? C2 works 
> without them and can render XML.

AXIS is something to do with the SOAP examples I believe.

I'm working on the list now, I'll send it ASAP.

J.


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