Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-xml-cocoon-dev-archive@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 46983 invoked by uid 500); 21 Jun 2001 20:36:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cocoon-dev-help@xml.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 46968 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2001 20:36:06 -0000 Message-ID: <3B325A77.E6B7FC4F@apache.org> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:35:03 -0400 From: Berin Loritsch X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org Subject: Re: [RT] Alternative Solution to XSP References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms8DDBBED9A6B1ECF3FBFC968B" X-Spam-Rating: h31.sny.collab.net 1.6.2 0/1000/N --------------ms8DDBBED9A6B1ECF3FBFC968B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Donald Ball wrote: > oh, do we have the cocoon: protocol implemented now? oh, note that i still > remain adamantly opposed to using the xinclude namespace if we don't > conform (largely) to the xinclude specification... I am not sure--I still have to double check. The change was made a couple days ago, and I have been split three ways on projects at work for a while. > ah, but the problem with using strictly sitemap transformers to do this, > at least for webapps, is that you don't always know what transformers > you're going to need to use in a given pipeline, and the pipeline is > immutable. so suppose i have a transformer which operates on my namespace > and transform > > > > into sql transformer elements: > > > ... > > select * from client_table order by name > ... > > > > for this to work in the current environment, i'd have to known that the > 'my' transformer is probably going to need to call the 'sql' transformer > immediately after it. that should not be the concern of the sitemap > maintainer... 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