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From Berin Loritsch <blorit...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Why WebApp programming is harder than necessary with C2
Date Wed, 06 Jun 2001 02:32:12 GMT


Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> 
> Giacomo,
> Please check if what i checked in is ok.
> 
> Berin,
> Please let me know if this works for you.

It looks good so far.  I am home with a sick
daughter, so I will test it in the office
tomorrow.  Don't let that stop the release,
though.  We can fine-tune the results post
release if there are any bugs.

BTW, if we have 2.0 Beta 1 release, what is
in the 2.1 release?

> 
> Thanks,
> dims
> 
> --- giacomo <giacomo@apache.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Berin Loritsch wrote:
> >
> > > There is one point in the webapp that makes WebApp developing
> > > more difficult than necessary in Cocoon2.  This has to do with
> > > redirects.  I was originally for not allowing redirects for
> > > generators, transformers, and especially serializers.  However,
> > > I always tried to advocate leaving that ability in Actions.
> > > As a result, we have our Sitemap handle too many concerns.
> > > NEVER should the sitemap handle WebApp LOGIC.  I don't mind
> > > having it specify the Actions to use, or even rearrange their
> > > order.  I do mind that I have to do some serious fenangling
> > > with sitemap parameters and dynamic logic to embed program
> > > logic in the sitemap.
> > >
> > > I propose to allow the Environment object to be passed to
> > > Actions in the objectModel.  That way, Actions can still do
> > > redirects--easing program development.  This also simplifies
> > > the site administrators duties in that they no longer have
> > > to know the gory details of how the program logic works.
> > > All the time, it also removes the ability for the other
> > > sitemap components to perform redirects.
> > >
> > > The current programming model is too restrictive--and I have
> > > to do true HACKS to get around it.  I have a program to
> > > release to a customer soon, and it would really simplify my
> > > life if I can handle site security and redirects conveniently
> > > in Actions.
> >
> > I knew it will come sooner or later. Maybe we should have a Redirector
> > interface that a concrete Environment should implement to enable an
> > Action to do redirects only (I don't see the other methods of
> > the Environment interface be relevant to an Action).
> >
> > As this is a change of an Interface (Action) this should be
> > implemented VERY SOON as Carsten will do the dists tomorrow.
> >
> > Giacomo
> >
> >
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