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From Berin Loritsch <blorit...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [C2] <parameter> or <map:parameter> ?
Date Thu, 10 May 2001 16:28:44 GMT
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
> 
> Giacomo Pati a écrit :
> >
> > Quoting Sylvain Wallez <sylvain.wallez@anyware-tech.com>:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > giacomo a écrit :
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 9 May 2001, Donald Ball wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 9 May 2001, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > +1. Donald, would you like to take a shot?
> > > > >
> > > > > well, i'll await the results of the discussion. berin had dissented
> > > > > slightly. also, how about other non-namespaced elements:
> > > > >
> > > > >    <map:transformer     name="xslt"
> > > > > src="org.apache.cocoon.transformation.TraxTransformer">
> > > > >     <compile-stylesheets map:value="true"/>
> > > > >     <use-store map:value="false"/>
> > > > >    </map:transformer>
> > > > >
> > > > >    <map:serializer name="wap"    mime-type="text/vnd.wap.wml"
> > > > > src="org.apache.cocoon.serialization.XMLSerializer">
> > > > >     <doctype-public>-//WAPFORUM//DTD WML 1.1//EN</doctype-public>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > <doctype-system>http://www.wapforum.org/DTD/wml_1.1.xml</doctype-system>
> > > > >    </map:serializer>
> > > > >
> > > > >   <map:selectors default="browser">
> > > > >    <map:selector name="browser"
> > > > > factory="org.apache.cocoon.selection.BrowserSelectorFactory">
> > > > >     <browser name="explorer" useragent="MSIE"/>
> > > > >     <browser name="pocketexplorer" useragent="MSPIE"/>
> > > > >
> > > > > any reason that all of these configuration elements don't belong
in
> > > the
> > > > > map namespace?
> > > >
> > > > Yes :)
> > > >
> > > > IMHO they don't belong to the map namespace because they don't have a
> > > > meaning to the sitemap. The sitemap only passes them along to the
> > > > components as is either to configure or parameterize the component
> > > > (because the components can/should not read the sitemap).
> > > >
> > > > Giacomo
> > > >
> > > It seems like I started a hot discussion ;-)
> > >
> > > I was only talking about <parameter> and not configuration elements :
> > >
> > > - IMO, parameters are a sitemap concern : they are used to pass
> > > parameters from the sitemap to its components using
> > > SitemapModelComponent.setup().
> > >
> > > - Configuration elements should not be in the sitemap namespace :
> > > they're a Configurable concern (and not all SitemapModelComponent are
> > > configurable), included in the sitemap for component configuration, and
> > > as such should stay non-namespaced, as all configurations are.
> >
> > Which sitemap components are not configurable? Generators, Transformers,
> > Serializers, Matchers, Selectors, Actions, all are configurable. And why is
> > there a difference of passing data once in the lifetime of a component and
> > passing it once per request?
> >
> Mmmh... many sitemap components *aren't* configurable : all generators
> and all transformers but TraxTransformer for example. The Configuration
> object passed to load_component() is silently ignored by
> DefaultComponentFactory in excalibur.

Uh, ignored?  Can you tell me how this is happening on your machine?  This
is a serious issue, and it needs to be addressed sooner than later.

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