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From giacomo <giac...@apache.org>
Subject Re: cvs commit: xml-cocoon/webapp/docs/samples/xsp cookie.xsp
Date Mon, 30 Apr 2001 20:52:06 GMT


On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Jeremy Quinn wrote:

> At 6:44 PM +0200 29/4/01, giacomo wrote:
> >On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Jeremy Quinn wrote:
> >
> >> At 10:05 PM +0200 19/4/01, giacomo wrote:
> >> >> So my position is:  XSP for sitemaps, serverpages, flowmaps, actions,
> >> >> aspects.
> >> >
> >> >-1 XSP for sitemaps (XSP is not the right markup-language)
> >> > 0 XSP for serverpages (already the case)
> >> >-1 XSP for flowmaps (same as sitemap)
> >> >-1 XSP for actions (an Action is not generatin any XML so XSP is of
> >> >                    no use here)
> >>
> >> Hmmm, don't completely agree here, I believe it would be very useful to be
> >> able to use XSP TagLibs in Action generation.
> >>
> >> For instance, in the Crudlet TagLib, there are tags that retrieve data and
> >> update a Bean, tags that set things up, trigger Events, and Tags that
> >> output XML.
> >
> >Well, you are talking about taglibs. We are talking about XSP and that
> >means the element available under the XSP namespace.
>
> My apologies for the confusion.
>
> >I still don't thing
> >that anything like <xsp:element> or <xsp:expr> or most of the other
> >elements makes any sense in an Action, and thus XSP is of no use in
> >Actions.
>
> OK, I understand what you were saying now.
>
> >It is the wrong markup. Of course you can tell us that the fp
> >or esql logicsheet can be of some use in an Action but it's not the XSP
> >markup you mean its the java code in there, right?
>
> Correct.
>
>
> >> It would be extremely useful to be able to do any events, update and
> >> setting up in Actions, controlled by the SiteMap, and then use Output tags
> >> within the XSP Page.
> >
> >I'm not sure to understand you. I already can and do let the sitemap
> >controll the events and let it dispatch them among Actions. I already
> >use Actions to update my model and I use Action to update/create my
> >business objects which gets output later on in the piipeline with
> >the help of XSP pages. So what do you want more?
>
> I think we just have some confusion between what we are calling events, you
> mean those sent by the SiteMap to Actions, I was referring to Events that
> the Crudlet TagLib sends to Beans.

Ok. So my apologies here :)

Don't get me wrong. If someone come up with a markup that makes sense
for action, transormers, whatever I'm +1 for implementing a
MarkupForActionCompilationAction because I know the model of server
pages is very convenient :)

Giacomo

>
>
> Thanks Giacomo
>
>
> regards Jeremy
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