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From Zvi <>
Subject Re: Nice article in german "Computerwoche online"
Date Sun, 18 Jun 2000 00:16:17 GMT

there is such a science, called Comparative Linguistics.
There is a set of 100 hundred basic word roots, like "bread", "moon", "sun",
"mother", "father", etc.., by counting number of roots, that similar in two
languages and substituting it into some formula, you get how long time ago these
two languages separated.
Also there is "transformation" table (wow, like XSLT), so u can translate root
from one language to "pra-language" and back to other language! So for example you
can reproduce from current italian word, it's Indo-European prototype and then
translate it to modern german. It's not guaranteed that will be real modern german
word, b/c there always exceptions from the rules.
 Somebody wanna expand this theory to XML dialects? How to find formula, which
will tell me how long time ago two DTDs separated? :-))


Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:

> Sven Kuenzler wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > the german "Computerwoche" has a nice article about the ASF online:
> >
> >  (in
> > german)
> >
> > I assume it also appeared in their printed version.
> >
> > Summary:
> >
> > - The ASF is building a powerful platform for web applications around their
> > Apache server
> > - Public is not so aware of the Apache activities compared to the excitement
> > about Linux
> > - Quoting Tim O'Reilly: "Linux enthusiasts should not focus on fighting
> > Windows on the desktop market but rather choose the Internet as platform of
> > the future"
> > - Apache kept  HTTP "clean",  whereas Microsoft and Netscape would have
> > tried to add proprietary extensions. The strong number of Apache
> > installations prevented this.
> > - Apache "gravity center" for free software
> > - Description of Java, Jakarta and XML projects
> > - Liberal license attracts industry players, whereas other OSS groups see
> > problems arising from it
> > - Open source as keeper of open standards in the XML world
> Wow, brilliant analisys for such a general computer magazine.
> Note: I don't speak german, but hey, at least I was able to parse it
> since it uses the same italian character set (more or less)... then
> semantic elaboration was not impossible given the high number of terms I
> could find in my semantic network... everything else was interpolated
> from my language understandings, poorly, I might say, but it was good
> enough to understand the "positive" tone of the article.
> It's incredibly how many things languages has in common once you look at
> them from a real distand and abstract location.
> It would be very interesting to study natural languages that underwent a
> complete separate evolution from the occidental culture... who knows,
> maybe the old incas language or ancient japanese... maybe it could give
> us more abstraction on how we see things, giving us more points of view
> of the same problems.
> And maybe forests express something similar to natural languages but
> their time scale, connection medium and semantic capabilities are so
> different from ours that we don't even see it.
> Sometimes is scary when you understand how much "egocentric" is our view
> of the world.
> But as a very wise old lady, award-winning italian cartoonist, very good
> friend of mine, said to me recently: "you must venture into the abstract
> land only so far and one step at a time. You have to go back to reality
> and your antropocentrism everytime you go futher inland. You must not
> believe your ego exists without your body."
> I think this very wise suggestion is the real-life equivalent of our
> flexibility syndrome.
> And given the alienation and depression I've seen emerging in many of
> the people that I've met over my latest years, I really hope I can use
> such great patterns in both my life and my creations.
> Sorry for the noise, people, but sometimes if feels good to express you
> own feelings in a total random way...
> --
> Stefano Mazzocchi      One must still have chaos in oneself to be
>                           able to give birth to a dancing star.
> <>                             Friedrich Nietzsche
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