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From "Neeme Praks" <>
Subject RE: Cocoon and Jetspeed
Date Thu, 08 Jun 2000 16:44:43 GMT

> -----Original Message-----
> From: burtonator []
> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 1:46 AM
> > I'm not 100% familiar with the current implementation of skins in
> > Jetspeed, so correct me if I'm wrong here.
> > The current implementation uses skins in the way that you pass some
> > variables to the controller(?) and the "border" around the 
> portlet will
> > be rendered using some hardcoded (ECS?) template, inserting the
> > variables (e.g. title color) where needed.
> > Using XSLT instead of this method would allow me to _easily_ change
> > (changing XSLT sheet) not only some variables, but the 
> whole structure
> > of the "border". Using some other tags instead of <TABLE>, for
> > example... or putting title in the bottom instead of the top of the
> > portlet content (don't know why, but still)... or changing 
> the layout of
> > the max/min/etc buttons...
> > Much more powerful and easier for the deployer, I think.
> Yes.  It is.  This is why we have XMLPortletController :)

Ok, I'll check the XMLPortletController out ASAP...

> The problem is that not everything will be XSLT aware.  ECS (at least
> 1.3.2) can't produce XHTML.  Some of the Portlets use ECS (which for
> small things is fine).  I don't think this limitation is currently in
> ECS any more.  The framework can still be fixed.

ok, I'm not concerned with this, I expect to do everything in XSP...

> That said as soon as time permits the other PortletControllers will
> probably be deprecated in favor of the XMLPortletController 
> so that you
> can have decent XHTML here.  The can controllers like
> PanePortletController, ColumnPortletController, etc will still use XSL
> but will also listen to the paramters.  You could still tweak them if
> you wanted.

yep, my idea exactly.

> I agree.  It is a hack.  I don't like it.  Just time.  
> Hopefully I will
> be paying a lot more attention to XML valid/correct documents.   It
> might just also become a requirement :)
> <snip> 
> > OK, sorry, I wasn't aware of the existence of XMLPortletController.
> yup.  And if you are using 100% Cocoon it should work great. :) 
> Hopefully all this stuff will  happen sooner than later. :)

I'm also hoping to see it soon ;-)


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