Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact cocoon-dev-help@xml.apache.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 92023 invoked from network); 14 May 2000 23:00:36 -0000 Received: from balld-0.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO localhost.localdomain) (@216.254.77.75) by locus.apache.org with SMTP; 14 May 2000 23:00:36 -0000 Received: from localhost (balld@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA11485 for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 19:00:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: balld owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 19:00:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Donald Ball X-Sender: balld@localhost.localdomain To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org Subject: Re: [wanna laught?] Microsoft invented XML In-Reply-To: <391E8912.3CFC73D@localbar.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: locus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Sun, 14 May 2000, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > "Kevin A. Burton" wrote: > > > > > Message to SUN: "Please Open Source Java!" > > -1 on that. > > Sun has the desire and $$$ to protect Java in the court rooms when > attempts are made to crush its promise. Which OpenSource project has > ever gone to court over licenses, how about Sun, and how many times has > MS (and others) ignored licenses, to crush opponents? > Those questions should be asked before requesting Java to become > OpenSource. After all, Open Source is a method to improve code, and you > are free to do so, and your work could be for the gain of all others. I want Sun to open the source to their JVM and turn control of the JVM and core API specifications over to a standards body for further development. Open source isn't just a method to improve code, it's a method to ensure that I'm not tacking myself onto a potentially sinking ship. Open standards are a way of ensuring interoperability. - donald