From esalon@canuck.com Sun Apr 2 09:30:20 2000 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact cocoon-dev-help@xml.apache.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 69778 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2000 09:30:20 -0000 Received: from the-gimp.canuck.com (HELO canuck.com) (204.50.15.12) by locus.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 2000 09:30:20 -0000 Received: from esalon ([195.242.59.82]) by canuck.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id DAA149963 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 03:30:10 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <000801bf9c85$7aff5340$0701a8c0@esalon.largemedium.com> From: "Mark Washeim" To: Subject: Re: Documentation grammars, was:[Re: [RT] latest wonderings around W3C land and surroundings] Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 11:26:06 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Spam-Rating: locus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Pier..... It is relevant in so far as any developement effort that doesn't account for it's documentation is a WASTE. I've currently got two developers working on visual tools to contribute back to the xml projects at asf. They MUST produce decent documentation in our context in order for the tools to be of any value beyond the scope of projects they implement it for. However, I understand your desire to move beyond this. As long as Stefano and co's designs remain coherent, the documentation has been superlative anyway. I'll shut up on this count. We're, as usual about 2 or 3 weeks behind, but we have prototypes of schema based editing tools in beta now (being burned in in tests with the client). Those tools should be delivered to you guys in the next week. I guess once I'm (via the company) contributing some code, the issues of maintaining it can be addressed :) Mark (not mike) Washeim >> As for my part, if you think a discussion of docbook is a waste of time, you >> should try getting out of the perpetual CALS table model discussion I've >> been working through for the last n years.... > >I think it's NOT relevant here, where we're discussing about the >implementation of a publishing framework called Cocoon. if you guys want >to fight about anything (because lately the discussion _was_ a fight) >that is not strictly related to the architecture and bugs of Cocoon >2.0, please don't do it here... Or if you do, just tell me, and I'll be >more than happy to unsubscribe... >I don't want to see my friends flaming each other on things that are, on >this mailing list, of marginal importance. We _have_ to concentrate on >the tool right now, and get it out for JavaONE... Because that's the >promise I made on behalf of this group, and regardeless of the fact that >the group follows me or not, I'm going to maintain it. > > Pier > >-- >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >pier: stable structure erected over water to allow docking of seacraft > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >