Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact cocoon-dev-help@xml.apache.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 14866 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2000 13:15:34 -0000 Received: from cinesite1.sohonet.co.uk (HELO scanman.cinesite.co.uk) (193.203.80.4) by locus.apache.org with SMTP; 27 Mar 2000 13:15:34 -0000 Received: from cinesite.co.uk (piglet.london.cinesite.com [10.123.10.30]) by scanman.cinesite.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25916 for <@scanman.cinesite.co.uk:cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org>; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:15:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from klimt.london.cinesite.com (klimt.london.cinesite.com [10.123.10.12]) by cinesite.co.uk (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id OAA12839 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:15:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from cinesite.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by klimt.london.cinesite.com (SGI-SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA52193 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:15:31 +0100 (BST) Sender: iana@cinesite.co.uk Message-ID: <38DF5EF3.BB125E3F@cinesite.co.uk> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:15:31 +0100 From: Ian Abbott Reply-To: iana@cinesite.co.uk Organization: Cinesite - A Kodak Company X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP22) X-Accept-Language: en-GB, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org Subject: Re: JDK 1.2 vs 1.1: the never-ending story. References: <025501bf97ec$827d77c0$0701a8c0@esalon.largemedium.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: locus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Mark Washeim wrote: > > >So, go with JDK 1.2. I mean, who'd use a MacOS system to host a > >webserver? :) > > Mac OS X. > > There are many German companies using Mac OS X or NextStep boxes running > apple application servers (ie, OpenStep stuff). Well, that's a bit different isn't it? I was talking about "MacOS" in terms of the incredibly buggy OS that most Mac users run today; i.e. MacOS 9 and lower, with their awful memory management systems and lack of pre-emptive multitasking and multithreading. Mac OS X is a different case. Mac OS X runs on a BSD-alike kernel. In simple terms, it's a UNIX variant with a large number of Apple/NeXT APIs overlaid on top of it for handling the "GUI" side (BlueBox, YellowBox, RedBox, Carbon, Quartz). The Mach kernel ("Darwin") has just been cross-compiled to x86 as well (check out www.publicsource.apple.com for more info). That's stable. But then it's a UNIX variant running Apache, so I'd expect it to be. UNIX was, is and will be for some time to come the chief server platform whether it comes from Sun, SGI, GNU or Apple... So take my comment in the form of "who'd use a MacOS 9 or less system to host a webserver?" which is the majority of Mac users right now. Yes, MacOS X Server is taking off, but it has yet to reach client systems, where you can imagine that some people may be running Cocoon. Enough said. Don't take this as a flame. I personally run on a PC (quad-booting between Win9x, Win2000, Linux and BeOS), an SGI IRIX box and an Apple Mac, so I have no preferences... Ian