Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact cocoon-dev-help@xml.apache.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 45477 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2000 20:43:24 -0000 Received: from ausmail1.austin.ibm.com (192.35.232.12) by 63.211.145.10 with SMTP; 20 Jan 2000 20:43:24 -0000 Received: from netmail3.austin.ibm.com (netmail3.austin.ibm.com [9.53.250.99]) by ausmail1.austin.ibm.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18522 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 14:42:55 -0600 Received: from popmail.austin.ibm.com (popmail.austin.ibm.com [9.53.247.178]) by netmail3.austin.ibm.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA41572 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 14:43:22 -0600 Received: from apache.org (socks2.almaden.ibm.com [9.1.40.50]) by popmail.austin.ibm.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7-client1.01) with ESMTP id OAA26490 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 14:43:20 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <388771FB.1012A2D2@apache.org> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:37:15 -0800 From: Mike Pogue Organization: xml.apache.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org Subject: Re: xBug -Reply References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bug tracking is at the top of my list, too. I'll bring this up on the PMC list. Brian has setup gnats, but I'm not sure people are interested in using that. I've heard more interest in Bugzilla or Jitterbug. Mike Scott Boag/CAM/Lotus wrote: > > "Ricardo Rocha" said: > > That said, I'd like to contrast this open-source endeavor with that of a > > commercial software company. > > > > In the latter, it would be an inadmissible waste of time and money to > > reinvent the wheel, especially around such a critical component. > > > > Here, though, I feel we can afford this luxury as long as we get what > > seems to be our collective motivation: learning, testing, improving... > > Normally I would agree with you. But I think a bug tracking system is a > special case. Here I'm not worried about waste of time and money or > reinventing the wheel, I'm worried about the ability to present a stable > environment for users and developers, in order to make all projects more > stable and reliable. > > I'm not saying that xBug shouldn't be done, but, like Ant, it should only > be used once it is better than existing systems. The difference between > Ant and xBug, is that with a bug tracking system, there is an immediate > compelling need for all projects to share the same system, which the same > is *less* so with the makefile technology. > > -scott