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From Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Retire the CMDA Podling
Date Wed, 25 Jan 2017 17:34:48 GMT
I am in favor of retirement.

There just isn't any perceptible inclination to be an Apache community
here. Without that, further incubation doesn't make much sense.



On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 8:50 AM, Chris Mattmann <mattmann@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Jia, and community,
>
> The basic situation we have here is:
>
> 1.       The CMDA podling doesn’t send email to the lists. There are
> 0 new threads started by the PPMC in months, and 0 communication other
> than report reminders (and late reports), and questions about the podling’s
> status: https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@cmda.apache.org
> 2.       Communication and work on CMDA are occurring, just not at Apache.
>
>
> Regardless of the account requests (which I had a spreadsheet early on,
> here, and asked the team to track where they were with submitting and the
> process which
> they never updated), the podling has not met the minimum bar for being an
> open and transparent
> community despite many threads regarding this. In addition, due to my own
> limited time
> for mentorship and the limited time of other mentors there was difficulty
> in actively
> monitoring this and overall I believe there was the hope that somehow this
> would be
> figured out and corrected.
>
> I am +1 for John, because of this, to start and continue the Retirement
> discussion.
>
> We tried, and this isn’t a repudiation of the project by any means. It’s
> simply a
> recognition the experiment here at Apache didn’t work out, and it’s the
> correct thing to do for both sides.
>
> Sincerely,
> Chris
>
>
>
>
> On 1/24/17, 8:55 PM, "Jia Zhang" <jia.zhang@sv.cmu.edu> wrote:
>
>     Dear John:
>
>     Happy New Year!
>
>     I believe there is some miscommunication.
>
>     We have been waiting for permission to commit to repo for a long time,
>     after quite some applications. None of the members in our team have
>     received accounts to commit, including myself. My previous student had
>     permission, but he graduated. We reported.
>
>     As a matter of fact, the CMDA team has developed project website, also
> we
>     have set up various ways to publish our code, in github as well as
>     dockerhub.
>
>     We hope mentors could give us more advice.
>
>     Thanks a lot.
>
>     Best regards,
>     Jia
>
>     On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:01 PM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
>     wrote:
>
>     > Dear CMDA Podling,
>     >
>     > Last summer, a discussion started to retire the CMDA podling.  A
> vote was
>     > started shortly after and it was decided to give more time to see
> how the
>     > podling grows.  Unfortunately at this point, public discussions
> around the
>     > podling have ceased.  There is still no website, no releases.  The
> last
>     > commit to the repo is still November 2015.
>     >
>     > At this point, the only path forward I believe is retirement of the
>     > podling.
>     >
>     > John
>     >
>
>
>
>

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