From users-return-31914-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@cloudstack.apache.org Mon Dec 24 11:48:00 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 148BB180660 for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2018 11:47:58 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 79907 invoked by uid 500); 24 Dec 2018 10:47:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@cloudstack.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list users@cloudstack.apache.org Received: (qmail 79883 invoked by uid 99); 24 Dec 2018 10:47:51 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd4-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 24 Dec 2018 10:47:51 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd4-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd4-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 36B9DC00D6; Mon, 24 Dec 2018 10:47:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd4-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.799 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.799 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_REPLY=1, HTML_MESSAGE=2, KAM_SHORT=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd4-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd4-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.11]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LT3Mf22AteHx; Mon, 24 Dec 2018 10:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pl1-f173.google.com (mail-pl1-f173.google.com [209.85.214.173]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id C14CA60F5E; Mon, 24 Dec 2018 10:36:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pl1-f173.google.com with SMTP id a14so5445092plm.12; Mon, 24 Dec 2018 02:36:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=cMZLKRZrvbS1ecB2pn9Tx/n6YkLv78YEgkXnuN9PCe0=; b=R0gehB+dK6lNToH7D+GedmFTLoX3jjW05sMGNjMCQ7jLPZFo1hx8UbU9Om3GBJg92I illjGHtLxmqNQIpcX3q266jnADvnK0qVxdBuV77gbpvGXacglWbJjhxnzuvOrCbTuKD3 rCHeZwfQnXV5VZp5zdjaq4Iy1afXd+lnWZihn04ySKnGos4iL2cLj5mjN8r1uzSEM1JV zmj95VAof0fvPQF4+1EpM/sgJWCDVZO2oFf19LlXyCivxX2P5U1DQuoVW9Y/IN+Ul6HJ FrTp09uj/nY7ujMI15+2k28qAFlpVGUu/ChbHN7+kVCXAiAuzGHbitd5qKeUW9mg0JnL oAPw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=cMZLKRZrvbS1ecB2pn9Tx/n6YkLv78YEgkXnuN9PCe0=; b=dYKKsAsASFTstkAoDd7THqVomCpQmdjV9YdcQlslZe3ROXMw2I5hk6h0MqgOcyQaQX qS7kyZbA1AjMqkklFKICsrTJ7PBTe76Nl3uLNeR+/y1ziRMUEf8wKi8FuyQ01eN05M71 /77aWoddSNZYSgEGleYqbj/ApvezwIt50pkqwYP6hFZsr+8oVwsS082Asc6U8IqBoznU YkWXc61Yqx0yQuQoRk1BI8ROh9YhcSLh+hjfq8XAAmh2NkavIJmehO9v2IO6Z3cYml5a SkrBJa8IYItGw3Cij2FdV9V/icQVXlYXc4Nlr6QXlB0zIW4ldaCaFq0h/X8obFa655zZ vhVQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukds4JDuRlWj/nJpy+jMh5nytKHOgYUVTN4sAzclvgnkx3FGbfMG sW5QWagYoO0pzxJItHxyx8vwsojEwxkuibU6US5s0Z5f X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN63N/3mNwaLuMw5acgIik07V2zn5INyve28PCQnsk99YCs2r/uCjuY5sZpaKbNXTIxCNByLpm6DAKeBvJpSWVY= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:76cb:: with SMTP id j11mr12865338plt.179.1545647808883; Mon, 24 Dec 2018 02:36:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <418CFF3E-4FC1-46C2-82EA-66D970DF58DC@shapeblue.com> In-Reply-To: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Rafael_Weing=C3=A4rtner?= Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 08:36:12 -0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: CloudStack Collab in Brazil To: users , dev Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000098af06057dc22c68" --00000000000098af06057dc22c68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It would be great to have your presence :) My idea is to have a call after this period of Christmas and New Year=E2=80= =99s Eve. I will let you guys know when I get the dates and time. Thanks for your (the ACS community) time, attention, and effort so far. On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 10:04 PM Tim Mackey wrote: > Rafael, > > I can't do a call next week, but the following week I should be able to. > The tracks look great. From my side, assuming I can get travel approval, > I'll submit on the cloud security track. Regulations are part of my life > these days! > > -tim > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 10:19 AM Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner < > rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote: > > > No date has been set yet. Next week I will contact them again, and then= I > > will reach the community here to set a date. Thanks for the willingness > to > > make this happen! Your participation is essential. You guys have great > use > > cases of ACS. > > > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 12:49 PM Ricardo Makino > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Rafael, > > > > > > I am able to join you in the call, when do you expect it happening? > > > > > > Maybe we can use doodle (https://doodle.com) to check the schedule of > > all > > > involved in the call. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > -- > > > Ricardo Makino > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 11:23 AM Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner < > > > rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Hello Folks, > > > > > > > > I have submitted the tracks. The next step now is to schedule a > meeting > > > > with the TDC organizers again. However, at this time, I need some o= f > > you > > > in > > > > the call. We will be discussing channels to spread the word regardi= ng > > the > > > > conference, talks selection process, maybe branding (CCC, Apache > > > > CloudStack) with the TDC, and so on. Who would be willing to join m= e > in > > > > this call? > > > > > > > > > > > > Here go the details of the tracks that I submitted. > > > > > > > > > *Track Name:* Cloud Orchestration > > > > > *Track slogan:* Meet the cloud builders and learn how clouds are > > > created > > > > > *Track description:* > > > > > Computing resources became a commodity, and as such, they are sol= d > > and > > > > > consumed and billed on demand. Cloud computing provided all of th= at > > > with > > > > > resiliency, elasticity, and scalability; thus, it is enabling > > companies > > > > to > > > > > efficiently use computing resources. > > > > > > > > > > The cloud orchestration track will address topics regarding > features, > > > and > > > > > cloud orchestration systems design (e.g. CloudStack, and OpenStac= k) > > and > > > > > cloud data center structure. Moreover, the audience will have the > > > > > opportunity to meet the people behind the cloud orchestration > systems > > > > > mostly deployed in the world. > > > > > > > > > > *Targeted audience:* > > > > > he main audience is cloud operators/administrators that are deali= ng > > on > > > a > > > > > daily basis with cloud computing platforms. Other interested > parties > > > are > > > > > cloud developers (developers interested in working at the base of > the > > > > > cloud, and not just on consuming cloud resources), cloud > consultants > > > and > > > > > business people that work creating, deploying, and maintaining > cloud > > > > > computing environments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Track Name:* Cloud DevOps > > > > > *Track slogan:* Get together with other cloud administrators and > > > > > developers and share your daily hacks! > > > > > *Track description:* > > > > > Companies are either creating private clouds or using public clou= ds > > > > > (sometimes doing both at the same time). This track provides a > space > > > for > > > > > system administrators and developers to share their day-to-day > tasks > > > and > > > > > hacks when consuming cloud resources or maintaining cloud > > environments. > > > > > *Targeted audience:* > > > > > The targeted audience is cloud developers (cloud consumers) or > cloud > > > > > administrators that use in a daily bases cloud resources and or > cloud > > > > > platforms. > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Track Name:* Cloud testing and QA > > > > > *Track slogan:* Let=E2=80=99s find out how people assure quality = and cope > > with > > > > > the scale and dynamism of the cloud at the same time > > > > > *Track description:* > > > > > We all talk about agile development and the speed, elasticity, an= d > > > > > cost-effective nature of cloud environments. It is a challenge fo= r > > > > > developers, testers and team leaders to provide software quality > > > > assurance > > > > > in ever shorter development cycles. > > > > > > > > > > The solution for reducing development cycles, optimizing > development > > > and > > > > > testing efforts, and make the most of the cloud is automation. > Thus, > > > > > continuous integration, delivery, and deployment are the buzzword= s > > that > > > > > come to save the day of DevOps. > > > > > > > > > > *Targeted audience:* > > > > > Developers and testers that take advantage cloud resources to > enable > > > the > > > > > development of more efficient, stable, and reliable applications. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Track Name:* Cloud open ecosystem > > > > > *Track slogan:* Let=E2=80=99s discover together the business and = job > > > > > opportunities that we have in the cloud. > > > > > *Track description:* > > > > > The cloud is everywhere, from your local pizza shop to large > > retailers. > > > > > This track focus on the cloud ecosystem, the job market, business > > > > > opportunities, and the management process of highly heterogeneous > and > > > > > distributed communities in OpenSource (such as CloudStack and > > > OpenStack) > > > > > > > > > > Also, have you ever wondered=E2=80=A6 who are the cloud players t= hat you > have > > > > > nearby? What are the business opportunities in the cloud? How is > the > > > life > > > > > of a developer that creates clouds? And what about cloud admins?! > How > > > > does > > > > > someone get into the cloud realm? Are the cloud people green?! > Stop > > > > > wondering, and board this track to discover the answers for these > > > > questions > > > > > and many other interesting facts about the Cloud OpenSource world= . > > > > > > > > > > *Targeted audience:* > > > > > Everybody, from business people to developers that either work wi= th > > > cloud > > > > > or want to get into the cloud world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Track Name: *Cloud security > > > > > *Track slogan:* Cloud security, have you heard of it? And, what > about > > > > > privacy in the cloud? Let=E2=80=99s get together and discuss the= security > > > > aspects > > > > > of the cloud > > > > > *Track description:* > > > > > As cloud becomes pervasive, it is rare for us not to use it. > > Therefore, > > > > > the cloud impacts constantly our daily life. Moreover, we are > storing > > > > most > > > > > of our data in the cloud. Is that data protected? Is the cloud > > > protecting > > > > > our privacy? And, what about the GDPR? How will the cloud get rea= dy > > to > > > > > protect users privacy and provide control over their data? > > > > > > > > > > This track focuses on discussing and presenting security aspects = in > > > cloud > > > > > computing; privacy issues (relating to GDPR), DDoS and QoS, and s= o > > on. > > > > > Moreover, it is a great opportunity to evaluate the impact of > > > regulations > > > > > such as GDPR, on the cloud. > > > > > > > > > > *Targeted audience:* > > > > > Everybody, from business people to developers that either work wi= th > > > cloud > > > > > or want to get into the cloud world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am very thankful if you reached here. This means that I did waste > > time > > > > writing all of this ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 4:22 PM Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner < > > > > rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the feedback guys. Sorry or the top post, but I missed > the > > > > > time, and I think it is easier to reply on top. > > > > > > > > > > Brilliant Idea Makino; the security aspects of cloud environments > are > > > > > sometimes overlooked. I will add that. Thanks for the suggestion > and > > > > > support to me this happen ;) > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the support as well Cristian. It is going to be great = to > > > make > > > > > this happen with you guys. > > > > > > > > > > Gabriel, it is not restricted to committers/PMCs. Anybody (users, > > > > > developers, committers, PMCs, and even OpenStackers that might be > > > > > eavesdropping our lists=E2=80=A6) are more than welcome to help t= o make > this > > > > happen. > > > > > > > > > > Marco and Tim, it is going to be great to have your support as we= ll > > > > either > > > > > helping to promote or to review talk proposals. > > > > > > > > > > So, I will proceed with proposing the topics as follows. > > > > > > > > > > - Cloud computing (area/topic) > > > > > - cloud orchestration -- this would be the track where topi= cs > > > > > regarding features, and cloud orchestration systems (e.g. > > > > CloudStack) > > > > > design and structure would be presented > > > > > - DevOps -- track for presentations that address the > day-to-day > > > of > > > > > CloudStack (or OpenStack) developers and the daily life of > > > > operators with > > > > > tasks such as debugging and troubleshooting > > > > > - tests -- track for discussing the Q&A process and testing > > > methods > > > > > for clouds > > > > > - cloud open source ecosystem -- track focusing on the clou= d > > > > > ecosystem, where people can address things relating the job > > > market, > > > > > business opportunities, and the management process of highl= y > > > > heterogeneous > > > > > and distributed communities in OpenSource (such as > CloudStack) > > > > > - cloud security =E2=80=93 track for discussing and present= ing > security > > > > > aspects in cloud computing; privacy issues (GDPR), DDoS and > > QoS, > > > > and so on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, thank you very much for your inputs. I will now proceed to > > > propose > > > > > the tracks, and then I will get back to you guys to define a date > to > > > set > > > > a > > > > > call, so we can discuss this further with TDC=E2=80=99s tracks co= ordinators > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 4:27 PM Marco Sinhoreli < > > > > > marco.sinhoreli@shapeblue.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> I am available to help since I am in Brazil and I have in local > > > > community > > > > >> many ACS users that want to talk in CCC. > > > > >> > > > > >> Also, Makino and Cristian are involved a long time with CloudSta= ck > > and > > > > >> they can help us to have a great event! > > > > >> > > > > >> Best regards, > > > > >> > > > > >> Marco Sinhoreli > > > > >> Latam Technical Director > > > > >> marco.sinhoreli@shapeblue.com > > > > >> mobile: +55 21 98276 3636 > > > > >> > > > > >> Av. Brigadeiro Faria Lima, 3144 - 2=C2=BA andar =E2=80=93 Jardim > > > > >> Paulistano, S=C3=A3o Paulo, SP, Brasil, 01451-000 > > > > >> Phone: + 55 11 3568-2877 > > > > >> http://www.shapeblue.com/ | twitter: @shapeblue > > > > >> > > > > >> =EF=BB=BFEm 19/12/2018 15:55, "Tim Mackey" e= screveu: > > > > >> > > > > >> Gabriel, > > > > >> > > > > >> I'm happy to help review proposals if required. > > > > >> > > > > >> -tim > > > > >> > > > > >> On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 12:35 PM Gabriel Beims Br=C3=A4scher= < > > > > >> gabrascher@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > Hi Rafael, > > > > >> > > > > > >> > I am available to help, count on me! > > > > >> > I have one question. Can anyone (one that is not a > > > PMC/Committer) > > > > >> help to > > > > >> > review presentations? > > > > >> > > > > > >> > The divisions for the CFP looks good, adding security > aspects > > as > > > > >> Ricardo > > > > >> > Makino proposed is also interesting. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Regards, > > > > >> > Gabriel. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Em qua, 19 de dez de 2018 =C3=A0s 11:12, Cristian Latapiat= < > > > > >> latapiat@gmail.com> > > > > >> > escreveu: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Hi Rafael , > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > I am, therefore, available to collaborate and to help yo= u > in > > > > >> everything > > > > >> > > that may be necessary. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Regards, > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Cristian > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Em seg, 17 de dez de 2018 =C3=A0s 18:49, Rafael Weing=C3= =A4rtner < > > > > >> > > rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> escreveu: > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Hey guys, > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > Have you guys had time to read through this e-mail? Ar= e > > > there > > > > >> > volunteers > > > > >> > > to > > > > >> > > > help us make CCC happen in Brazil? We need to provide > them > > > the > > > > >> topics > > > > >> > of > > > > >> > > > tracks that we will be participating until 21/12/2018. > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 7:11 PM Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtne= r < > > > > >> > > > rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > Hello CloudStackers, > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > I had a few meetings with the TDC folks, and we seem > to > > be > > > > >> moving on. > > > > >> > > > They > > > > >> > > > > have a slightly different organization than ApacheCo= n > > > > though. > > > > >> > > Therefore, > > > > >> > > > we > > > > >> > > > > were asked to provide them with some =E2=80=9Ctrack = topics=E2=80=9D > that > > > fit > > > > >> in the > > > > >> > > area > > > > >> > > > of > > > > >> > > > > Cloud Computing. Then, we could direct presentations > to > > > one > > > > >> of these > > > > >> > > > > tracks. The idea is that the international tracks (t= he > > > ones > > > > >> that will > > > > >> > > be > > > > >> > > > in > > > > >> > > > > English) will not be parallelized to enable the > audience > > > to > > > > >> attend > > > > >> > all > > > > >> > > of > > > > >> > > > > them (this means, one for each day). Also, the track= s > > will > > > > >> receive > > > > >> > > > > presentations from other people that are not in our > > > bubble, > > > > >> and this > > > > >> > is > > > > >> > > > > great (at least I found this awesome), because > different > > > > >> people with > > > > >> > > > > different backgrounds would come together on the sam= e > > > track, > > > > >> which in > > > > >> > > > turn > > > > >> > > > > means, people that might not know ACS would have the > > > > >> opportunity not > > > > >> > > just > > > > >> > > > > to meet the solution, but also the people behind it. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > So, this is what I have in mind: > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > - Cloud computing (area/topic) > > > > >> > > > > - cloud orchestration -- this would be the tra= ck > > > where > > > > >> topics > > > > >> > > > > regarding features, and cloud orchestration > > systems > > > > >> (e.g. > > > > >> > > > CloudStack) > > > > >> > > > > design and structure would be presented > > > > >> > > > > - DevOps -- track for presentations that addre= ss > > the > > > > >> day-to-day > > > > >> > > of > > > > >> > > > > CloudStack (or OpenStack) developers and the > daily > > > > life > > > > >> of > > > > >> > > > operators with > > > > >> > > > > tasks such as debugging and troubleshooting > > > > >> > > > > - tests -- track for discussing the Q&A proces= s > > and > > > > >> testing > > > > >> > > methods > > > > >> > > > > for clouds > > > > >> > > > > - cloud open source ecosystem -- track focusin= g > on > > > the > > > > >> cloud > > > > >> > > > > ecosystem, where people can address things > > relating > > > > the > > > > >> job > > > > >> > > market, > > > > >> > > > > business opportunities, and the management > process > > > of > > > > >> highly > > > > >> > > > heterogeneous > > > > >> > > > > and distributed communities in OpenSource (suc= h > as > > > > >> CloudStack) > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > What do you guys think of these divisions for the CF= P? > > > > >> > > > > Also, we might need help to review and select > > presentation > > > > >> proposals. > > > > >> > > > > Would some of you guys be willing to help on this > > process? > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > And last, but not least, it would be awesome if > > companies > > > > >> linked to > > > > >> > ACS > > > > >> > > > > are interested to be the sponsors of tracks or the > > event. > > > > >> They have > > > > >> > > sent > > > > >> > > > me > > > > >> > > > > the brochure and sponsorship prospects from 2018 so = we > > can > > > > >> get to > > > > >> > know > > > > >> > > > > better the conference [1]. The attendance report and > > > > >> prospectus are > > > > >> > in > > > > >> > > > > English, and for instance, in 2018 the TDC event in > > > > >> Florianopolis > > > > >> > > (where > > > > >> > > > we > > > > >> > > > > are proposing to have CCC in 2019) received about 40= 00 > > > > >> people. The > > > > >> > > > > sponsorship prospectus for 2019 events is being > > prepared, > > > > and > > > > >> I guess > > > > >> > > if > > > > >> > > > > there are interested parties on this, you can reach > them > > > > >> directly, or > > > > >> > > if > > > > >> > > > > you have some problems to do that, I can help you gu= ys > > as > > > > >> well. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > [1] > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/53ujp2usf402dlj/AAA1a2jZPddGcAT8ZosRiGCAa?dl= =3D0 > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 8:16 PM Tutkowski, Mike < > > > > >> > > > Mike.Tutkowski@netapp.com> > > > > >> > > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> Thanks, Rafael! > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> The dates work for me. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> Get Outlook for iOS > > > > >> > > > >> ________________________________ > > > > >> > > > >> From: Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner < > rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> > > > > >> > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 5:02:14 PM > > > > >> > > > >> To: users > > > > >> > > > >> Cc: dev > > > > >> > > > >> Subject: Re: CloudStack Collab in Brazil > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> NetApp Security WARNING: This is an external email. > Do > > > not > > > > >> click > > > > >> > links > > > > >> > > > or > > > > >> > > > >> open attachments unless you recognize the sender an= d > > know > > > > the > > > > >> > content > > > > >> > > is > > > > >> > > > >> safe. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> Yes, they already have a date set. It should be 23 = - > > 27 > > > > >> April, > > > > >> > 2019. > > > > >> > > > >> I should be talking with them again this week to > check > > > what > > > > >> we need > > > > >> > to > > > > >> > > > >> move > > > > >> > > > >> thing forward. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> What do you guys think about these dates? > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 5:07 PM Tutkowski, Mike < > > > > >> > > > >> Mike.Tutkowski@netapp.com> > > > > >> > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > Hi Rafael, > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > Do you have a specific date in mind for CCC Brazi= l? > > It > > > > >> sounds > > > > >> > like, > > > > >> > > in > > > > >> > > > >> > general, we are looking at April. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > Thanks! > > > > >> > > > >> > Mike > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > On 10/1/18, 12:51 PM, "Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner" < > > > > >> > > > rafaelweingartner@gmail.com > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > wrote: > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > NetApp Security WARNING: This is an external > > email. > > > > Do > > > > >> not > > > > >> > click > > > > >> > > > >> links > > > > >> > > > >> > or open attachments unless you recognize the send= er > > and > > > > >> know the > > > > >> > > > >> content is > > > > >> > > > >> > safe. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > Yes, that is what I also believe. From the > > > feedback, > > > > I > > > > >> think > > > > >> > we > > > > >> > > > can > > > > >> > > > >> > easily > > > > >> > > > >> > use 10 presentations. I will move on with the > > > > >> organization. I > > > > >> > > > think > > > > >> > > > >> it > > > > >> > > > >> > is > > > > >> > > > >> > feasible to get more room space in case we > > receive > > > > more > > > > >> > > > presentation > > > > >> > > > >> > and > > > > >> > > > >> > people. I will try to not overlap presentatio= ns > > > > though > > > > >> (like > > > > >> > we > > > > >> > > > did > > > > >> > > > >> in > > > > >> > > > >> > ApacheCon). > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 3:36 PM Tutkowski, Mik= e > < > > > > >> > > > >> > Mike.Tutkowski@netapp.com> > > > > >> > > > >> > wrote: > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > I guess it depends on how many people expec= t > to > > > be > > > > >> able to > > > > >> > > > attend. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > Ten presentation slots is probably a good > > > starting > > > > >> point. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > Get Outlook for iOS > > > > >> > > > >> > > ________________________________ > > > > >> > > > >> > > From: Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner < > > > > >> rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> > > > > >> > > > >> > > Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 10:10:55 AM > > > > >> > > > >> > > To: users > > > > >> > > > >> > > Cc: dev > > > > >> > > > >> > > Subject: Re: CloudStack Collab in Brazil > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > NetApp Security WARNING: This is an externa= l > > > email. > > > > >> Do not > > > > >> > > click > > > > >> > > > >> > links or > > > > >> > > > >> > > open attachments unless you recognize the > > sender > > > > and > > > > >> know > > > > >> > the > > > > >> > > > >> > content is > > > > >> > > > >> > > safe. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > Thank you guys for the feedback! > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > I will reach out the organizers to discuss > our > > > > >> requirements. > > > > >> > > > What > > > > >> > > > >> do > > > > >> > > > >> > you > > > > >> > > > >> > > guys think that we need? > > > > >> > > > >> > > Would 10 presentation slots (50min. each) b= e > > > > enough? > > > > >> Or, do > > > > >> > > you > > > > >> > > > >> guys > > > > >> > > > >> > think > > > > >> > > > >> > > that we need more? > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > Also, I think that we should also do a > > Hackathon. > > > > >> > Therefore, I > > > > >> > > > >> will > > > > >> > > > >> > also be > > > > >> > > > >> > > asking for a room such as the one we used i= n > > > > >> Montreal. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 12:03 PM Nicolas > > Vazquez < > > > > >> > > > >> > > Nicolas.Vazquez@shapeblue.com> wrote: > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > I would be interested in an event in Braz= il > > as > > > > >> well. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > Regards, > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > Nicolas Vazquez > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > ________________________________ > > > > >> > > > >> > > > From: Gabriel Beims Br=C3=A4scher < > > > > gabrascher@gmail.com > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 11:58:07 AM > > > > >> > > > >> > > > To: users > > > > >> > > > >> > > > Cc: dev > > > > >> > > > >> > > > Subject: Re: CloudStack Collab in Brazil > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > As a Brazilian, that lives in > Florian=C3=B3polis, > > I > > > > >> cannot pass > > > > >> > > > this > > > > >> > > > >> > > opportunity > > > > >> > > > >> > > > ;) > > > > >> > > > >> > > > Count on me! > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > Em seg, 1 de out de 2018 =C3=A0s 11:27, > Tutkowski, > > > > Mike > > > > >> < > > > > >> > > > >> > > > Mike.Tutkowski@netapp.com> escreveu: > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > I would be really interested in an even= t > in > > > > >> Brazil. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ________________________________ > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > From: Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner < > > > > >> rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 5:38 AM > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > To: users > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Cc: dev > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Subject: Re: CloudStack Collab in Brazi= l > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > NetApp Security WARNING: This is an > > external > > > > >> email. Do > > > > >> > not > > > > >> > > > >> click > > > > >> > > > >> > links > > > > >> > > > >> > > or > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > open attachments unless you recognize t= he > > > > sender > > > > >> and > > > > >> > know > > > > >> > > > the > > > > >> > > > >> > content > > > > >> > > > >> > > is > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > safe. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Hey Marco, > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Yes, they run a very successful > conference > > > > every > > > > >> year. I > > > > >> > > > have > > > > >> > > > >> > just got > > > > >> > > > >> > > > back > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > from Montreal, and I talked with people > > there > > > > >> regarding > > > > >> > > the > > > > >> > > > >> > conference. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Now, for all CloudStackers (users and > > devs); > > > I > > > > >> will > > > > >> > repeat > > > > >> > > > >> what > > > > >> > > > >> > I said > > > > >> > > > >> > > in > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Montreal. The TDC conference will happe= n > > with > > > > or > > > > >> without > > > > >> > > us. > > > > >> > > > >> > Therefore, > > > > >> > > > >> > > > we > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > only need to decide if we will join the= m > in > > > > >> their Cloud > > > > >> > > > >> tracks. > > > > >> > > > >> > We did > > > > >> > > > >> > > > not > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > hear much feedback here, but I will try > > > again. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > If you are part of the CloudStack > community > > > > (as a > > > > >> > > > contributor, > > > > >> > > > >> > > committer, > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > user, operator, and so on), please do > > provide > > > > >> your > > > > >> > > feedback. > > > > >> > > > >> > Would you > > > > >> > > > >> > > > like > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > to see a CloudStack Collab Conference i= n > > > > >> Florianopolis, > > > > >> > > > >> Brazil, > > > > >> > > > >> > 2019? I > > > > >> > > > >> > > > am > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > only asking you guys, what you think. I > do > > > > >> understand > > > > >> > the > > > > >> > > > >> > logistics > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > problems for some folks to attend a > > > conference > > > > >> this far. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Now, about the city; the island has an > > > airport > > > > >> (airport > > > > >> > > > code =3D > > > > >> > > > >> > FLN). > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > However, most flights to FLN will have = a > > > > >> connection > > > > >> > either > > > > >> > > > on > > > > >> > > > >> > GRU (Sao > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Paulo airport) or GIG (Rio de Janeiro > > > airport); > > > > >> KLM, AA, > > > > >> > > > >> Delta, > > > > >> > > > >> > > > AirFrance, > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Tap, and others have flights to FLN. I > have > > > > also > > > > >> found > > > > >> > > some > > > > >> > > > >> > useful > > > > >> > > > >> > > links > > > > >> > > > >> > > > in > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > English that can be used by your guys t= o > > > check > > > > >> the city. > > > > >> > > In > > > > >> > > > >> this > > > > >> > > > >> > link > > > > >> > > > >> > > [1] > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > you can information not only about the > > city, > > > > but > > > > >> the > > > > >> > State > > > > >> > > > as > > > > >> > > > >> > well; > > > > >> > > > >> > > there > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > are pages in different languages such a= s > > > > English, > > > > >> > Spanish, > > > > >> > > > and > > > > >> > > > >> > German > > > > >> > > > >> > > (to > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > change the language there is a button i= n > > the > > > > >> top-right > > > > >> > > > >> corner). > > > > >> > > > >> > On > > > > >> > > > >> > > these > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > other links [2-3], you can find a guide > > > > (English > > > > >> only) > > > > >> > of > > > > >> > > > the > > > > >> > > > >> > city; it > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > contains a brief overview and some > details > > > > about > > > > >> > Museums, > > > > >> > > > >> > Beaches, > > > > >> > > > >> > > events > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > and so on. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > I would also be happy to answer any oth= er > > > > >> question that > > > > >> > > you > > > > >> > > > >> > might have. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > [1] > > > > >> http://turismo.sc.gov.br/en/cidade/florianopolis/# > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > [2] > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > https://www.floripa-guide.com/attractions/about-florianopolis.html > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > [3] > > > http://www.vivendofloripa.com.br/en/home/ > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 5:42 PM Marco > > > > Sinhoreli < > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > marco.sinhoreli@shapeblue.com> wrote: > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Hello Rafael, > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > I know this conference, last year in > TDC > > > > Porto > > > > >> Alegre > > > > >> > I > > > > >> > > > >> spoke > > > > >> > > > >> > about > > > > >> > > > >> > > ACS > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > and ansible. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > I was very impressed with them event > > > support > > > > >> and > > > > >> > > > >> organization, > > > > >> > > > >> > they > > > > >> > > > >> > > > have > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > a > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > nice approach involving community in > the > > > > >> organization. > > > > >> > > > They > > > > >> > > > >> > also > > > > >> > > > >> > > have a > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > good penetration to prospect sponsors= . > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > I am able to help you in this subject > > > since I > > > > >> am in > > > > >> > > Brazil > > > > >> > > > >> as > > > > >> > > > >> > well. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Best regards, > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Marco Sinhoreli > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > marco.sinhoreli@shapeblue.com > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > mobile: +55 21 98276 3636 > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Av. Brigadeiro Faria Lima, 3144 - 2= =C2=BA > > andar > > > =E2=80=93 > > > > >> Jardim > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Paulistano, S=C3=A3o Paulo, SP, Brasi= l, > > > 01451-000 > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Phone: + 55 11 3568-2877 > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > http://www.shapeblue.com/ | twitter: > > > > >> @shapeblue > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Em 21/09/2018 08:37, "Rafael > > Weing=C3=A4rtner" < > > > > >> > > > >> > > > rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > escreveu: > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Hello fellow devs and users (pardon m= e > > for > > > > the > > > > >> cross > > > > >> > > > post), > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > I already contacted the PMC on this > > matter, > > > > >> and I am > > > > >> > now > > > > >> > > > >> > opening the > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > discussion to the whole community. > Let=E2=80=99s > > > see > > > > >> what you > > > > >> > > guys > > > > >> > > > >> > think > > > > >> > > > >> > > about > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > a > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > CloudStack conference in Brazil, and > > let=E2=80=99s > > > > >> work to > > > > >> > make > > > > >> > > it > > > > >> > > > >> > happen ;) > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Since the rather shameful? situation > with > > > the > > > > >> > CloudStack > > > > >> > > > >> Collab > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Conference > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > (CCC) in Brazil last year, I have bee= n > > > > looking > > > > >> for > > > > >> > > > possible > > > > >> > > > >> > ways to > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > enable > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > the event. And, it seems that I found > it, > > > and > > > > >> it is > > > > >> > > > >> something > > > > >> > > > >> > that we > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > are > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > already used to do. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > There is a conference series in Brazi= l > > > called > > > > >> TDC (The > > > > >> > > > >> > Developer=E2=80=99s > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > conference) [1]. They run three > > > conferences a > > > > >> year > > > > >> > > > >> > (Florianopolis, > > > > >> > > > >> > > S=C3=A3o > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Paulo, and Porto Alegre). They have > been > > > > >> running for > > > > >> > > over > > > > >> > > > a > > > > >> > > > >> > decade > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > now. I > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > attended the last one in S=C3=A3o Pau= lo > (July > > > > 2018) > > > > >> and it > > > > >> > > was > > > > >> > > > >> > awesome. To > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > give > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > you guys some numbers for the S=C3=A3= o Paulo > > > > event: > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > - 4524 attendants > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > - 6040 online-viewers (some talks are > > live > > > > >> streamed) > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > - 2927 corporate registrations > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > - 63 different tracks, and more than > 300 > > > > talks. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > - 5 days of conference > (Tuesday-Saturday) > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > They are in the process of > > > internationalizing > > > > >> the > > > > >> > > > conference > > > > >> > > > >> > now. The > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > hot > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > site is being translated, and they ar= e > > > > >> preparing > > > > >> > things > > > > >> > > > for > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > English/Spanish > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > CFPs and tracks. While talking with o= ne > > of > > > > the > > > > >> > > organizers > > > > >> > > > >> > during the > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > event, > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > I mentioned that we have been doing > > > > collocated > > > > >> CCC > > > > >> > with > > > > >> > > > >> > ApacheCon and > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > that > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > I would love to see CCC in Brazil. An= t > it > > > > >> turns out, > > > > >> > > they > > > > >> > > > >> > would love > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > to see > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > us there in Brazil as well. They > offered > > to > > > > >> provide > > > > >> > the > > > > >> > > > same > > > > >> > > > >> > support > > > > >> > > > >> > > as > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > ApacheCon provides us. We would only > need > > > to > > > > >> organize > > > > >> > > the > > > > >> > > > >> CFP > > > > >> > > > >> > and > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > selection of the presentations. We > would > > > also > > > > >> need to > > > > >> > > tell > > > > >> > > > >> > them our > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > needs: > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > rooms, hackathon spaces, and so on. > They > > > are > > > > >> proposing > > > > >> > > for > > > > >> > > > >> us > > > > >> > > > >> > space > > > > >> > > > >> > > in > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > their Florianopolis TDC 2019, which > will > > be > > > > >> held in > > > > >> > > > >> > Florianopolis > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > city. The > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > event will take place in April 2019 > > (there > > > is > > > > >> not a > > > > >> > > > >> > possibility for > > > > >> > > > >> > > the > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > event to be canceled this time!). > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > I can coordinate this process with > them, > > > but > > > > I > > > > >> might > > > > >> > > need > > > > >> > > > >> some > > > > >> > > > >> > help > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > from > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > you guys. That is why I would like to > > > discuss > > > > >> this > > > > >> > > option > > > > >> > > > >> here > > > > >> > > > >> > first. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > What > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > do you think about the best dates to > run > > a > > > > CCC > > > > >> in > > > > >> > > Brazil? > > > > >> > > > >> They > > > > >> > > > >> > have > > > > >> > > > >> > > an > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > event in April, other in Jully, and t= he > > > last > > > > >> one in > > > > >> > > > >> December. > > > > >> > > > >> > In > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > theory, we > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > can discuss and try to get approval t= o > > some > > > > >> other > > > > >> > > > city/date, > > > > >> > > > >> > but they > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > recommended Florianopolis/April event= . > > (We > > > > >> talked > > > > >> > about > > > > >> > > > this > > > > >> > > > >> > on the > > > > >> > > > >> > > PMC > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > list, and it seems that for an > > > international > > > > >> audience, > > > > >> > > the > > > > >> > > > >> > April date > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > looks > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > the best one). > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Also, would some of you be willing to > > > attend? > > > > >> I think > > > > >> > > the > > > > >> > > > >> > presence of > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > committers/PMCs is vital to meet face > to > > > face > > > > >> with the > > > > >> > > > >> > community that > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > uses > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > CloudStack there. And of course, the > > event > > > is > > > > >> way > > > > >> > > broader > > > > >> > > > >> than > > > > >> > > > >> > Apache > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > and > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > CloudStack. Therefore, we can show > > > ourselves > > > > >> and > > > > >> > > hopefully > > > > >> > > > >> > attract > > > > >> > > > >> > > new > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > people/companies. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > I am eager to hear your feedback guys > ;) > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > [1] > > > > >> http://www.thedevelopersconference.com.br/en > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > -- > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > -- > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > Nicolas.Vazquez@shapeblue.com > > > > >> > > > >> > > > www.shapeblue.com > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > Amadeus House, Floral Street, London WC2= E > > 9DP > > > > >> > > > >> > > > @shapeblue > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > -- > > > > >> > > > >> > > Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > -- > > > > >> > > > >> > Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > > >> > > > >> Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > -- > > > > >> > > > > Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > -- > > > > >> > > > Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > -- > > > > >> > > Cristian Latapiat > > > > >> > > (12)981281976 > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner > > > --=20 Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner --00000000000098af06057dc22c68--