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From: =?UTF-8?Q?Rafael_Weing=C3=A4rtner?= <rafaelweingartner@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 16:20:28 -0400
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Subject: Re: Accessing Virtual Instances from other systems on the same subnet
To: "users@cloudstack.apache.org" <users@cloudstack.apache.org>
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I also have one more thing, how is the is the network setting?
You said that the VMs and other physical PCs are in the same network (
10.0.0.0/24). How are these devices connected? Are they using the same
switch?

On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Muhammad Adeel Zahid <16030053@lums.edu.pk>
wrote:

> One more thing. The default template just downloaded. But the same result=
.
> I can ping my instance VM's from the "host" they are running on but not
> from any other machine. I will repeat the steps you told and will get bac=
k
> to you.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner <rafaelweingartner@gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 7, 2017 1:08:47 AM
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Accessing Virtual Instances from other systems on the same
> subnet
>
> Well, if that is the case, I would do the following while pinging from th=
e
> outside world:
>
>    - tcpdump inside these problematic VMs to check if they can see ping
>    packets;
>    - If they cannot, I would check iptables rules (iptables -L) on both V=
Ms
>    and hosts;
>    - Then, I would check the tcpdump also on a host where the VMs are
>    running to see if the packets are at least getting into the host.
>    - I would also check the arp table of your client PC (just in case)
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Muhammad Adeel Zahid <16030053@lums.edu.p=
k
> >
> wrote:
>
> > I tried it both way. I ran VMs on the same systems and I also ran VMs o=
n
> a
> > system different than system VMs but the result is same.
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner <rafaelweingartner@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Friday, April 7, 2017 12:58:33 AM
> > To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Accessing Virtual Instances from other systems on the same
> > subnet
> >
> > Are these users VMs running on the same server as the system vms?
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Muhammad Adeel Zahid <
> 16030053@lums.edu.pk
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > ah, my bad, I meant one server running both cloudstack-management and
> kvm
> > > and another server running kvm alone. Both are physical machines.
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner <rafaelweingartner@gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, April 7, 2017 12:51:42 AM
> > > To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Accessing Virtual Instances from other systems on the sa=
me
> > > subnet
> > >
> > > I did not understand what you mean by "a server running management
> studio
> > > and KVM"
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Muhammad Adeel Zahid <
> > 16030053@lums.edu.pk
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yes, I added the basic zone. I have one server running the manageme=
nt
> > > > studio and KVM both and another machine running kvm alone.
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner <rafaelweingartner@gmail.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, April 7, 2017 12:23:50 AM
> > > > To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Accessing Virtual Instances from other systems on the
> same
> > > > subnet
> > > >
> > > > Hmm, it should not be a problem just because you are using a ISO
> based
> > > VM.
> > > > Have you tried to instantiate the VM using the CentOS template that
> > comes
> > > > with ACS?
> > > > These KVM servers you are using, are they real servers or VMs?
> > > >
> > > > If you followed (
> > > > http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-
> > > > installation/en/4.9/qig.html),
> > > > then you have deployed a basic zone.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Muhammad Adeel Zahid <
> > > 16030053@lums.edu.pk
> > > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Rafael,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for reaching out. I am not sure about traffic labeling and
> > rest
> > > of
> > > > > the stuff. I have just setup the basic installation using this
> > tutorial
> > > > > http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-
> > > > > installation/en/4.9/qig.html and haven't explicitly set anything
> that
> > > is
> > > > > not in the tutorial. About the IP addresses of VM's. Yes, they se=
em
> > to
> > > > have
> > > > > a single IP (ifconfig). Please note that I am creating VM's from
> > cenots
> > > > 6.8
> > > > > minimal ISO image that I intend to use later as template. Does th=
at
> > > > create
> > > > > the problem?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Adeel
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner <rafaelweingartner@gmail.com>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, April 7, 2017 12:05:15 AM
> > > > > To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: Accessing Virtual Instances from other systems on th=
e
> > same
> > > > > subnet
> > > > >
> > > > > I asked a clarification because anything is a VM/instance (system
> and
> > > > > users), I wanted to know if the VMs without access were either a
> > system
> > > > VM
> > > > > (VR, SSVM, CVM or others) or a user VM.
> > > > > Well, what is your setup? Are you using basic network where the
> > public
> > > IP
> > > > > is assigned directly to users VMs?
> > > > >
> > > > > I asked you about the traffic label you are using for the public
> > > network.
> > > > > System VMs get IPs on management and public networks. The SSVM ha=
s
> > also
> > > > an
> > > > > IP on storage network. So, it seems that everything is fine with
> your
> > > > > public networks, not so sure about the rest.VMs get an IP on Gues=
t
> > > > network.
> > > > > The basic zone setup you will set the Guest IP as the public
> network
> > > > (with
> > > > > external access). Do these VMs have only a single IP?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Muhammad Adeel Zahid <
> > > > 16030053@lums.edu.pk
> > > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Specifically, by instances I mean the following
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think, you people call it instance VM's or just VM's.  You ca=
n
> > see
> > > > that
> > > > > > my instance VM's has addressed 10.0.0.124 & 10.0.0.141
> > respectively.
> > > I
> > > > > can
> > > > > > access or ping them from the host they are running on but I
> cannot
> > > > access
> > > > > > or ping them from any other machine on the same network i.e
> > > > 10.0.0.0/24.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On the other hand there are system VMs like Primary storage and
> > > > secondary
> > > > > > storage VM's as shown in figure below.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I can access or ping these VM's using their public IP address
> from
> > > any
> > > > of
> > > > > > the systems on the same subnet (be they part of cloudstack
> > > installation
> > > > > or
> > > > > > not). Now my question is, how I can access/ping my instance VM'=
s
> > from
> > > > any
> > > > > > system in the same subnet i.e 10.0.0.0/24?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hope that clarifies the question
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > > *From:* Muhammad Adeel Zahid <16030053@lums.edu.pk>
> > > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, April 6, 2017 6:05:57 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *To:* users@cloudstack.apache.org
> > > > > > *Subject:* Re: Accessing Virtual Instances from other systems o=
n
> > the
> > > > same
> > > > > > subnet
> > > > > >
> > > > > > by instances I mean what cloudstack management server calls
> > > instances.
> > > > I
> > > > > > have followed the sample guide to install cloudstack management
> and
> > > KVM
> > > > > on
> > > > > > two separate machines and got no error during the installation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > From: Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner <rafaelweingartner@gmail.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 5:21:53 PM
> > > > > > To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Accessing Virtual Instances from other systems on
> the
> > > same
> > > > > > subnet
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What is your setup?
> > > > > > What do you mean by instances? User VMs?
> > > > > > I am assuming you are talking about the public IP. Did you set
> the
> > > name
> > > > > of
> > > > > > the public bridge properly (interface where the public traffic
> > goes)?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 6:44 AM, Muhammad Adeel Zahid <
> > > > > 16030053@lums.edu.pk
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Guys,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have setup cloudstack management and hpyervisor (KVM) on
> > machine
> > > 1
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > machine 2 respectively. I am successfully able to ping the
> > > instances
> > > > > from
> > > > > > > hypervisor machine (machine 2) but I can't ping it from any o=
f
> > the
> > > > > other
> > > > > > > machines on the same subnet. Why is that?  How can I make it
> > work?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Another observation is that I can ping secondary storage and
> > > primary
> > > > > > > storage vm's from any system on the same subnet without any
> extra
> > > > > > > configuration. Can I have similar configuration-free setup fr=
om
> > > > virtual
> > > > > > > instances? If not, what else I have to do to ping/access
> virtual
> > > > > > instances
> > > > > > > from other machines in the same subnet.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Adeel
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
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> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > >
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> >
> >
> >
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