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From: Tim Mackey <tmackey@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2016 20:29:57 -0500
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Subject: Re: Now that Oracle is collecting for the use of Java, should we worry?
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On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 8:23 PM, Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner <
rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think the point here is that we do not redistribute Oracle Java JDK. We
> use the Java programming language to write a program (the Apache
> CloudStack). When we distribute the ACS' binaries, e.g. a closed version,
> we are also not redistributing the Java, what we do is distributing a
> binary that is compiled with a Java JDK.
>

For the management server, I believe that to be correct. The system VMs may
not be so clean, and that's more my concern here. I'm happy to have that
concern unfounded. This is a topic we're working through at $dayjob, so
front of mind for me right now.


> Of course, we cannot forget the licenses for library binaries that we are
> redistributing with ACS' versions; but, this is not the same as
> redistributing Oracle Java JRE/JDK. And as far as I know we manage this
> properly.
>
> On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Tim Mackey <tmackey@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Would be good to have a reference too. The only thing I'm aware of whic=
h
> > might impact us relates to any redistributed elements[1]. It would be a
> > question for the dev list to know if this does indeed impact the projec=
t.
> >
> > -tim
> >
> > [1] http://blog.takipi.com/running-java-on-docker-youre-
> breaking-the-law/
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner <
> > rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Could you share with us the reference? So we can have a bit more
> > > information to discuss it.
> > >
> > > I believe what they charge is for consulting, and not for the use of
> Java
> > > language per se.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 10:57 PM, Felipe Arturo Polanco <
> > > felipeapolanco@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I read in the news Oracle is collecting from companies using Java
> > > libraries
> > > > in commercial uses, since Cloudstack uses Java for its operations,
> > should
> > > > we worry about it?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner
>

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