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From: Felipe Arturo Polanco <felipeapolanco@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2016 21:36:34 -0400
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Subject: Re: Now that Oracle is collecting for the use of Java, should we worry?
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Here is the link
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/12/16/oracle_targets_java_users_non_compl=
iance/

On Dec 25, 2016 9:30 PM, "Tim Mackey" <tmackey@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 8:23 PM, Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner <
> rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I think the point here is that we do not redistribute Oracle Java JDK. =
We
> > use the Java programming language to write a program (the Apache
> > CloudStack). When we distribute the ACS' binaries, e.g. a closed versio=
n,
> > we are also not redistributing the Java, what we do is distributing a
> > binary that is compiled with a Java JDK.
> >
>
> For the management server, I believe that to be correct. The system VMs m=
ay
> not be so clean, and that's more my concern here. I'm happy to have that
> concern unfounded. This is a topic we're working through at $dayjob, so
> front of mind for me right now.
>
>
> > Of course, we cannot forget the licenses for library binaries that we a=
re
> > redistributing with ACS' versions; but, this is not the same as
> > redistributing Oracle Java JRE/JDK. And as far as I know we manage this
> > properly.
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Tim Mackey <tmackey@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Would be good to have a reference too. The only thing I'm aware of
> which
> > > might impact us relates to any redistributed elements[1]. It would be=
 a
> > > question for the dev list to know if this does indeed impact the
> project.
> > >
> > > -tim
> > >
> > > [1] http://blog.takipi.com/running-java-on-docker-youre-
> > breaking-the-law/
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner <
> > > rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Could you share with us the reference? So we can have a bit more
> > > > information to discuss it.
> > > >
> > > > I believe what they charge is for consulting, and not for the use o=
f
> > Java
> > > > language per se.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 10:57 PM, Felipe Arturo Polanco <
> > > > felipeapolanco@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > I read in the news Oracle is collecting from companies using Java
> > > > libraries
> > > > > in commercial uses, since Cloudstack uses Java for its operations=
,
> > > should
> > > > > we worry about it?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rafael Weing=C3=A4rtner
> >
>

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