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From Rohit Yadav <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com>
Subject Re: Now that Oracle is collecting for the use of Java, should we worry?
Date Tue, 27 Dec 2016 08:05:19 GMT
Our systemvmtemplates are currently based on Debian Wheezy (7.x). By default on these templates,
the build scripts install openjdk from the official debian repositories. Current templates
available from here have openjdk in them: packages.shapeblue.com/systemvmtemplate/4.6

Regards.
________________________________
From: Rafael Weingärtner <rafaelweingartner@gmail.com>
Sent: 26 December 2016 16:41:31
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: Now that Oracle is collecting for the use of Java, should we worry?

You are right Tim; I had forgotten the System VM. For system VMs, we could
use OpenJDK distribution, but this is something that has to be discussed
and well-studied.

Thanks for sharing this Felipe and Tim.

On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 11:36 PM, Felipe Arturo Polanco <
felipeapolanco@gmail.com> wrote:

> Here is the link
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/12/16/oracle_targets_
> java_users_non_compliance/
>
> On Dec 25, 2016 9:30 PM, "Tim Mackey" <tmackey@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 8:23 PM, Rafael Weingärtner <
> > rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I think the point here is that we do not redistribute Oracle Java JDK.
> We
> > > use the Java programming language to write a program (the Apache
> > > CloudStack). When we distribute the ACS' binaries, e.g. a closed
> version,
> > > we are also not redistributing the Java, what we do is distributing a
> > > binary that is compiled with a Java JDK.
> > >
> >
> > For the management server, I believe that to be correct. The system VMs
> may
> > not be so clean, and that's more my concern here. I'm happy to have that
> > concern unfounded. This is a topic we're working through at $dayjob, so
> > front of mind for me right now.
> >
> >
> > > Of course, we cannot forget the licenses for library binaries that we
> are
> > > redistributing with ACS' versions; but, this is not the same as
> > > redistributing Oracle Java JRE/JDK. And as far as I know we manage this
> > > properly.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Tim Mackey <tmackey@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Would be good to have a reference too. The only thing I'm aware of
> > which
> > > > might impact us relates to any redistributed elements[1]. It would
> be a
> > > > question for the dev list to know if this does indeed impact the
> > project.
> > > >
> > > > -tim
> > > >
> > > > [1] http://blog.takipi.com/running-java-on-docker-youre-
> > > breaking-the-law/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Rafael Weingärtner <
> > > > rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Could you share with us the reference? So we can have a bit more
> > > > > information to discuss it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I believe what they charge is for consulting, and not for the use
> of
> > > Java
> > > > > language per se.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 10:57 PM, Felipe Arturo Polanco <
> > > > > felipeapolanco@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I read in the news Oracle is collecting from companies using
Java
> > > > > libraries
> > > > > > in commercial uses, since Cloudstack uses Java for its
> operations,
> > > > should
> > > > > > we worry about it?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Rafael Weingärtner
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rafael Weingärtner
> > >
> >
>



--
Rafael Weingärtner

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