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From Geoff Higginbottom <geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com>
Subject RE: Macchinina Template
Date Tue, 17 Feb 2015 17:45:50 GMT
Yes and No...

These are XenServers running as VMs on top of a VMware Host, but they have HVM enabled, so
whilst they are 'nested', they believes they are running on real hardware.

I have not tested it on my VirtualBox build yet which is nested and does not have HVM, however
the template is registered as not requiring HVM so they should still live migrate.

Regards

Geoff Higginbottom

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geoff.higginbottom@shapeblue.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Nux! [mailto:nux@li.nux.ro]
Sent: 17 February 2015 17:28
To: Geoff Higginbottom
Cc: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: Macchinina Template

Thanks for feedback, Geoff.

Can you confirm if you can run Macchinina (pronounced Makinina ;) ) in your nested virt setup?

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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Geoff Higginbottom" <geoff.higginbottom@shapeblue.com>
> To: "Nux!" <nux@li.nux.ro>
> Cc: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Sent: Tuesday, 17 February, 2015 17:23:57
> Subject: RE: Macchinina Template

> Hi Nux,
>
> I was just testing this again, registered is into ACS 4.5.0 /
> XenServer 6.5 using following settings and live migration works without tools.
>
> extractableNo
> Password EnabledNo
> Dynamically ScalableNo
> PublicYes
> FeaturedYes
> OS TypeOther Linux (64-bit)
> DescriptionMacchinina (64-bit)
>
> Regards
>
> Geoff Higginbottom
>
> D: +44 20 3603 0542 | S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447968161581
>
> geoff.higginbottom@shapeblue.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nux! [mailto:nux@li.nux.ro]
> Sent: 16 February 2015 18:06
> To: Geoff Higginbottom
> Cc: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Macchinina Template
>
> Ok, just FYI I tried to extract the files from the RPMs and execute
> them, but they error out, so no go.
>
> I'm waiting for Citrix to release something more open source.
>
> --
> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
>
> Nux!
> www.nux.ro
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Nux!" <nux@li.nux.ro>
>> To: "Geoff Higginbottom" <geoff.higginbottom@shapeblue.com>
>> Cc: users@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Sent: Thursday, 12 February, 2015 11:12:37
>> Subject: Re: Macchinina Template
>
>> You could theoretically extract the binaries from the shipped
>> xs-tools RPMs (just open them in "mc") and try to run them, but I am not optimistic.
>>
>> Going to bug the people in xs-devel for some ideas on how to get some
>> sort of tools running in this kind of minimal environment.
>>
>> Lucian
>>
>> --
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>>
>> Nux!
>> www.nux.ro
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Geoff Higginbottom" <geoff.higginbottom@shapeblue.com>
>>> To: "Nux!" <nux@li.nux.ro>
>>> Cc: users@cloudstack.apache.org
>>> Sent: Thursday, 12 February, 2015 10:58:58
>>> Subject: RE: Macchinina Template
>>
>>> That’s a real shame, would there be any way of installing the Tools
>>> manually
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Geoff Higginbottom
>>>
>>> D: +44 20 3603 0542 | S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447968161581
>>>
>>> geoff.higginbottom@shapeblue.com
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Nux! [mailto:nux@li.nux.ro]
>>> Sent: 12 February 2015 10:47
>>> To: Geoff Higginbottom
>>> Cc: users@cloudstack.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: Macchinina Template
>>>
>>> Hi Geoff, thanks for your interest.
>>>
>>> Short answer: no
>>>
>>> Long answer: bundling the xenserver/vmware/hyperv tools and
>>> dependencies would probably increase the size of this template many
>>> times, to a point it may actually be worth using a minimal CentOS or
>>> Debian installation.
>>>
>>> Additionally because Macchinina is built from sources (buildroot)
>>> and has no package management or even glibc for that matter, I doubt
>>> the binaries shipped by Citrix would work.
>>>
>>> It's real shame XS can't perform live migrations without VM tools..
>>> :(
>>>
>>> Lucian
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
>>>
>>> Nux!
>>> www.nux.ro
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Geoff Higginbottom" <geoff.higginbottom@shapeblue.com>
>>>> To: nux@li.nux.ro
>>>> Cc: users@cloudstack.apache.org
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 12 February, 2015 09:46:01
>>>> Subject: Macchinina Template
>>>
>>>> Hi Nux,
>>>>
>>>> I've been testing your new Macchinina Template (great work) but
>>>> noticed the XenServer version has no tools installed, are you able
>>>> to get the tools installed into the templates?
>>>>
>>>> In the case of XenServer it prevents the live migration of the VM
>>>> etc
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/NuxRo/macchinina
>>>> http://dl.openvm.eu/cloudstack/macchinina/x86_64/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Geoff Higginbottom
>>>> CTO / Cloud Architect
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