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Andrija,

AFAIK you can't snapshot all the volumes in the exact same moment, but I am=
 not sure if it really needed in your case.
VM snapshot it's what you would need, only supported for Xenserver and VMwa=
re; we need to push for VM snapshot for KVM as well, I know it's possible a=
s I have done it manually with "virsh".

There are different ways around a problem though, if you are running mysql =
with innodb for example you could just do a mysqldump (with --single-transa=
ction to avoid locking the tables).

HTH
Lucian

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Nux!
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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrija Panic" <andrija.panic@gmail.com>
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Sent: Friday, 31 October, 2014 15:10:26
> Subject: Re: XenServer

> Nux,
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> I understand this - but a question for you - you have i.e. 3 volumes
> attached to a VM - how do you snapshot those and make sure they are
> snapshoted in the EXACT same moment, to preserve data integrity of the da=
ta
> inside VM - you have i.e. database files on 1 volume, database logs on
> another.
>=20
> This is a reall question, not kidding ? What I know, you can turnoff VM,
> and then snapshot one by one - but this is not the goal of the
> snapshotting...
> ?
>=20
> Thanks
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On 31 October 2014 16:06, Nux! <nux@li.nux.ro> wrote:
>=20
>> Andrija,
>>
>> You can still do volume snapshotting with KVM, works fine.
>>
>> http://www.nux.ro/archive/2014/01/Taking_KVM_volume_snapshots_with_Cloud=
stack_4_2_on_CentOS_6_5.html
>>
>> All we need is a way to quickly restore the volume, some guys at leasewe=
b
>> were working on something like this, hope to see this feature in future
>> versions.
>>
>> --
>> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
>>
>> Nux!
>> www.nux.ro
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Andrija Panic" <andrija.panic@gmail.com>
>> > To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
>> > Sent: Friday, 31 October, 2014 09:37:49
>> > Subject: Re: XenServer
>>
>> > My vote also for KVM snapshooting - having all the nice fetaures, but
>> > without basic virtualization stuff like snapshotting - it simply drive=
s
>> me
>> > and our client nuts...
>> >
>> > On 31 October 2014 10:03, Andrei Mikhailovsky <andrei@arhont.com> wrot=
e:
>> >
>> >> Is there a feature request for this support or should we open one? I
>> would
>> >> like to see this implemented for KVM.
>> >>
>> >> Andrei
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>
>> >> > From: "Nux!" <nux@li.nux.ro>
>> >> > To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
>> >> > Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 11:25:10 PM
>> >> > Subject: Re: XenServer
>> >>
>> >> > Andrei, I am hopeful the next incarnation of XenServer will be much
>> >> > better/modern, with support for CEPH, GlusterFS etc.
>> >>
>> >> > Re KVM snapshotting, KVM can do live snapshots of the volumes+memor=
y
>> >> > (you can do it with "virsh"), but ACS doesn't support it; forgot
>> >> > why.
>> >>
>> >> > Lucian
>> >>
>> >> > --
>> >> > Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
>> >>
>> >> > Nux!
>> >> > www.nux.ro
>> >>
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > > From: "Andrei Mikhailovsky" <andrei@arhont.com>
>> >> > > To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
>> >> > > Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 21:24:06
>> >> > > Subject: Re: XenServer
>> >>
>> >> > > I would happily switch to XenServer once they will have ceph
>> >> > > support. I do
>> >> > > prefer XenServer and the feature list of ACS + XenServer is a bit
>> >> > > better.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > It sucks not having proper snapshotting in KVM where one can crea=
te
>> >> > > the whole vm
>> >> > > snapshot (volumes + memory) very quickly without the need to both=
er
>> >> > > snapshotting every volume and wait for ages.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Andrei
>> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> From: "motty cruz" <motty.cruz@gmail.com>
>> >> > >> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
>> >> > >> Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 8:43:32 PM
>> >> > >> Subject: Re: XenServer
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> I am no expert by any means but my personal opinion, I really li=
ke
>> >> > >> XenServer a lot better. I have a cluster of about 5 machines
>> >> > >> running
>> >> > >> KVM,
>> >> > >> ACS 4.3. I unable to do snapshot, migrating VMs from one host to
>> >> > >> another
>> >> > >> takes a long time. I had a very bad experience with "Balloon
>> >> > >> driver",
>> >> > >> I am
>> >> > >> traumatize using KVM.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> XenServer don't need to install cloudstack agent is already
>> >> > >> integrated. I
>> >> > >> am very happy with XenServer. I still need to work out a few
>> >> > >> lingering
>> >> > >> issues but thus far am a happy person.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> Thanks,
>> >> > >> -Motty
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Andrei Mikhailovsky
>> >> > >> <andrei@arhont.com>
>> >> > >> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> > I wold love to see the ability to do proper snapshotting on KV=
M.
>> >> > >> > XenServer
>> >> > >> > does it so much better!
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > > From: "Vladimir Melnik" <v.melnik@uplink.ua>
>> >> > >> > > To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
>> >> > >> > > Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 8:09:17 PM
>> >> > >> > > Subject: RE: XenServer
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > > Oh, thank you so much, folks, for your replies on this topic=
!
>> >> > >> > > Now
>> >> > >> > > I
>> >> > >> > > understand that I shouldn't migrate to XenServer, as I alrea=
dy
>> >> > >> > > have
>> >> > >> > > a bunch of hosts running KVM and it really won't be a good
>> >> > >> > > idea
>> >> > >> > > to
>> >> > >> > > bread such a zoo.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > > The only thing that makes me feel envy is an ability to chan=
ge
>> >> > >> > > configuration of a virtual machine without restarting it. As=
 I
>> >> > >> > > know,
>> >> > >> > > KVM doesn't support it yet, am I right? Other XenServer
>> >> > >> > > features
>> >> > >> > > don't seem to be so exciting to me :)
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > > One more time - thanks to all who have helped me to decide n=
ot
>> >> > >> > > to
>> >> > >> > > do
>> >> > >> > > something that I would regret.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > > Best regards,
>> >> > >> > > V.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> --
>> >> > >> Thanks for your support,
>> >> > > > Motty
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Andrija Pani=C4=87
>> > --------------------------------------
>> >  http://admintweets.com
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>>
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