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From Geoff Higginbottom <geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com>
Subject Re: System vm's with wrong network routing
Date Tue, 08 Apr 2014 18:28:17 GMT
I would check the traffic labels for the management network match for your zone and hosts.

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On 8 Apr 2014, at 17:44, "Matthew Midgett" <support@trickhosting.biz<mailto:support@trickhosting.biz>>
wrote:

My problem is that the ssvm will not ping anything on the management network, It will not
do dns lookups as it will not ping past the default public gateway. The ssvm is up and I can
ping the public ip from a different subnet.

If i remove this I can use external dns and the ssvm can ping anything public
8.8.4.4         172.16.0.1      255.255.255.255 UGH   0 0        0 eth1
8.8.8.8         172.16.0.1      255.255.255.255 UGH   0 0        0 eth1

I change the values as Geoff had suggested and I rebooted the management service. Then i destroyed
the ssvm so it would be recreated with the new changes. Here is the route as it is now and
not working.

root@s-9-VM:~# route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
0.0.0.0         216.249.111.1   0.0.0.0         UG    0 0        0 eth2
8.8.4.4         172.16.0.1      255.255.255.255 UGH   0 0        0 eth1
8.8.8.8         172.16.0.1      255.255.255.255 UGH   0 0        0 eth1
169.254.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0 0        0 eth0
172.16.0.0      0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0 0        0 eth1
172.16.0.0      0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0 0        0 eth3
216.249.111.0   0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0 0        0 eth2

To me it doesn't look like the use external dns setting to true didn't do anything. It sill
wants to tell the dns to go across the management network. That would be fine if the routes
to the management network worked.

I'm willing to pay someone to help me at this point.


On 04/08/2014 12:10 PM, Erik Weber wrote:
You don't need gateway for network in the same subnet on an interface.

You never told us what your real problem is (i think), so why not start by
telling us what is not working :-)

As i tried to explain, 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 will be routed over the mgmt
interface if it's entered as the internal dns. If that is your problem, try
changing the value Geoff suggested.

Erik
8. apr. 2014 17:10 skrev "Matthew Midgett" <support@trickhosting.biz<mailto:support@trickhosting.biz>>
følgende:

Erik that would  be fine but this is wrong, this means its going to route
over the public address as 0.0.0.0 points to my public gateway.

172.16.0.0      0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0 0        0 eth1
172.16.0.0      0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0 0        0 eth3


On 04/08/2014 11:03 AM, Erik Weber wrote:

If you use the same dns servers for both internal and external it will add
a route over mgmt interface.

Erik Weber
8. apr. 2014 16:07 skrev "Matthew Midgett" <support@trickhosting.biz<mailto:support@trickhosting.biz>>
følgende:

 I destroyed the VM so it would create a new route. First off the 8.8.8.8
and 8.8.4.4 should have a default gateway of 0.0.0.0 if its to use the
public address to get dns. If its supposed to use the management network
then the 172.16.0.0     0.0.0.0 should be 172.16.0.0     172.16.0.1

This way it doesn't route properly

root@s-4-VM:~# route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref Use
Iface
0.0.0.0         216.249.111.1   0.0.0.0         UG    0 0        0 eth2
8.8.4.4         172.16.0.1      255.255.255.255 UGH   0 0        0 eth1
8.8.8.8         172.16.0.1      255.255.255.255 UGH   0 0        0 eth1
169.254.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0 0        0 eth0
172.16.0.0      0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0 0        0 eth1
172.16.0.0      0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0 0        0 eth3
216.249.111.0   0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0 0        0 eth2

This way works.

root@s-4-VM:~# route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref Use
Iface
0.0.0.0         216.249.111.1   0.0.0.0         UG    0 0        0 eth2
169.254.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0 0        0 eth0
172.16.0.0      172.16.0.1         255.255.0.0     U     0 0        0
eth1
172.16.0.0      172.16.0.1         255.255.0.0     U     0 0        0
eth3
216.249.111.0   0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0 0        0 eth2

Still  not sure where I should put this. I know its the way that Im
connecting to it but what route should it take? I'm thinking it should be
172.16.0.0
169.254.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0 0        0 eth0




On 04/08/2014 01:35 AM, Geoff Higginbottom wrote:

 Matthew,
Can you give examples of the routes you are seeing and explain why they
are wrong please.

Regards

Geoff Higginbottom
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On 7 Apr 2014, at 22:24, "Matthew Midgett" <support@trickhosting.biz<mailto:support@trickhosting.biz><
mailto:support@trickhosting.biz>> wrote:

My system vm's are being created with the wrong routes. Manually
deleting
and adding them fixes the problem. Where would I go to fix this
permanently?


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