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From Hugo Trippaers <HTrippa...@schubergphilis.com>
Subject Re: Configuring static routes on VM
Date Thu, 07 Feb 2013 22:11:16 GMT
Not at all.

He is raising a valid point. The current code is actively rejecting external elements for
vpcs. I'm already working on a fix for that as we want to use our Nicira stuff with vpc as
well. It looks like its a trivial fix, as it used to work before this restriction was put
in.

There are also some dependencies on vlans that I might have to remove or workaround. As soon
as I got packaging fixed for the 4.1 branch this is next on my list. There is already some
code in a branch for this, but I haven't been able to test it yet due to time constraints.

Which overlay networks are you intending to use? I can make sure to test with that as well.

Cheers,

Hugo


Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

Op 7 feb. 2013 om 23:00 heeft "Chip Childers" <chip.childers@sungard.com> het volgende
geschreven:

> Hugo - Mind taking a look at the questions that Jeff has?
> 
> On Thu, Feb 07, 2013 at 04:53:19PM -0500, Jeffrey McGovern wrote:
>> So after more research I found this
>> article<https://cwiki.apache.org/CLOUDSTACK/inter-vlan-routing.html>
>> which
>> is where we are trying to get to in terms of our network design.  As I was
>> reading through the Inter-VLAN routing link it mentions the following:
>> 
>> "In vpcOffering you define which services you want to support in the VPC.
>> When new Guest network is added to the VPC, we should check if its set of
>> services/providers are within VPC service/providers list. As
>> sourceNatService is required by the VPC, even when its not specified in
>> serviceProviders list, we add it automatically (with the VpcVirtualRouter
>> provider). Only VpcVirtualRouter can play a provider role inside the VPC."
>> 
>> 
>> I have an additional question which is if we intend to use an overlay
>> network and the overlay vendor is implemented as a network service provider
>> can we use the overlay in conjunction with the VpcVirtualRouter even though
>> the last line of the above quote states: Only VpcVirtualRouter can play a
>> provider role inside the VPC?
>> 
>> 
>> The source of my confusion comes from slide 12 - 16 of this
>> deck<http://www.slideshare.net/hugotrippaers/cloudstack-nvp-integration>
>> where
>> Nicira appears to be implemented as a Service Provider which would appear
>> to not allow the two to coexist.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jeffrey S. McGovern
>> SunGard Availability Services
>> 401 N. Broad Street - Mezzanine
>> Philadelphia, PA 19108
>> Desk: 215-446-2722
>> Fax: 215-408-4700
>> jeffrey.mcgovern@sungard.com
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Jeffrey McGovern <
>> jeffrey.mcgovern@sungard.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Geoff,
>>> Kinda sort of what I am looking for but can you help me understand this
>>> statement taken from
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/cloudstack/docs/en-US/Apache_CloudStack/4.0.0-incubating/html/Installation_Guide/configure-vpc.html#add-gateway-vpc
>>> ?
>>> 
>>> "A private gateway can be added by the root admin only. The VPC private
>>> network has 1:1 relationship with the NIC of the physical network. No
>>> gateways with duplicated VLAN and IP are allowed in the same data center.?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Given a multi-tenant environment does this actually imply that this
>>> network must be bound to a physical interface? Or does this mean that there
>>> must be a physical interface dedicated to this type of traffic which can
>>> then be carved up among multiple tenants based on the providers model?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jeffrey S. McGovern
>>> SunGard Availability Services
>>> 401 N. Broad Street - Mezzanine
>>> Philadelphia, PA 19108
>>> Desk: 215-446-2722
>>> Fax: 215-408-4700
>>> jeffrey.mcgovern@sungard.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Geoff Higginbottom <
>>> geoff.higginbottom@shapeblue.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>> 
>>>> If I have interpreted your requirements correctly, you want to send
>>>> traffic from the Guest Instances to a network which is probably within the
>>>> Data Centre and not on the internet.  The Default Gateway for the Guest VMs
>>>> is the VPC Virtual Router, and the Gateway used by the VPC Virtual Router,
>>>> is the Public Network Gateway.
>>>> 
>>>> If you want to direct traffic destined for a particular CIDR, you can
>>>> configure the VPC Virtual Router to route the traffic via a different
>>>> Gateway by using the 'Private Gateway' feature.
>>>> 
>>>> Imagine you have a set of physical servers running in the same DC, create
>>>> a VPC Private Gateway, and then create the Routing Rules for the required
>>>> CIDR, specifying the alternate Gateway IP which has L3 connectivity to the
>>>> physical servers.  This will add a new Virtual Interface onto the VPC
>>>> Virtual Router, and create the routes so traffic is sent via the alternate
>>>> Gateway rather than the Public Network Gateway.  You will obviously need
to
>>>> update the routing rules on alternate gateway so the traffic can flow back
>>>> to the Guest VMs.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> 
>>>> Geoff Higginbottom
>>>> 
>>>> D: +44 20 3603 0542 | S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447968161581
>>>> 
>>>> geoff.higginbottom@shapeblue.com
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
>>>> Sent: 05 February 2013 19:12
>>>> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Configuring static routes on VM
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 10:47:15AM -0800, Chiradeep Vittal wrote:
>>>>> We could enhance the CloudStack API to support DHCP options per subnet.
>>>>> One DHCP option could be static routes.
>>>> 
>>>> +1 to that...  Jeff, want to open a feature request [1] for this?
>>>> 
>>>> -chip
>>>> 
>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/5/13 10:06 AM, "Chris Sears" <chris.x.sears@sungard.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> CloudStack currently does all in-guest network configuration via
DHCP
>>>>>> and, as far as I can tell, no DHCP options are being set that would
>>>>>> push static routes.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you have a VM with multiple NICs, the DHCP server will hand out
>>>>>> IPs to each of them, while trying not to confuse the guest about
the
>>>>>> default gateway. In an earlier discussion, it was mentioned that
this
>>>>>> can be challenging due to differences in DHCP client of each guest
OS:
>>>>>> http://markmail.org/message/a5nwds7emxxix3ux
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Chris
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Chip Childers
>>>>>> <chip.childers@sungard.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Jeffrey McGovern
>>>>>>> <jeffrey.mcgovern@sungard.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>> I was wondering if there is a way to configure static routes
on a
>>>>>>>> guest VM  after it has been provisioned via Cloudstack?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jeff,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It may help if you provide a little more context to the question
to
>>>>>>> help folks understand what you're looking to do.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -chip
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