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From Jie Feng <Jie.F...@citrix.com>
Subject RE: [DISCUSS] CloudStack Marketplace Update
Date Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:10:57 GMT
Thanks Sebastian for trying to bring it to consensus. I like to separate each item and make
sure we have consensus on all of them. I am also including the user community (in addition
to dev) per Alex's recommendation.

Here is the wiki site for the Marketplace Proposal:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/CloudStack+Marketplace+Proposal

Here are items we need consensus on:
1. Separation of the marketplace code from the listing repository.
We have reached consensus on this one. 

2. The community will not run an Apache listing repository.
We have reached consensus on this one. I will modify the Wiki shortly. 

3. Place marketplace code in source code tree.
There are people supporting this, and there are people not supporting this when we talked
about Marketplaceplace as a whole. When we separate marketplace code from the listing repository,
majority of the folks responded seems to be ok with this.

4. Disable Marketplace by default or not including any listing repository by default.
The community in general seems to be concerned about including a third party listing repository
by default. My question is if third parties do run a listing repository, how do we make CloudStack
admins and users aware of this? And in general, how do we help folks who build value-added
offerings on top of CloudStack to reach the admins and users of the CloudStack community?
In my opinion, for an open source project to be successful, an ecosystem is very important.
My original goal is to design the Marketplace in such a way that the listings are very easily
accessible by admins and users, and have place for the ecosystem to participate (think iPhone
and iPhone apps). 

Jie





> -----Original Message-----
> From: sebgoa [mailto:runseb@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:02 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] CloudStack Marketplace Update
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to help bring this thread to consensus.
> I re-read the wiki:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/CloudStack+Mar
> ketplace+Proposal
> 
> The biggest issues that I believe drew concerns are:
> 1-Mention of an Apache CloudStack listing repository 2-Mention of including
> a listing repository in the source code.
> 
> To keep it short, we don't want to become liable for any image that a
> CloudStack user would run on its cloud. We also don't want the source code
> to contain anything that would be seen as product placement from any
> vendors.
> 
> That said if the wiki page was modified to remove the mention of "an apache
> cloudstack listing repository" and "inclusion in source code" and geared more
> towards contributing a plugin that would enable cloudstack users to link to a
> third party marketplace if they so desired. Then this would be agreeable.
> 
> I also believe this should be "disabled" by default with empty "listing
> repositories".
> 
> If this is agreeable, Jie Feng and co. could run a marketplace on their own and
> Cloudstack users could link to it. I could also work with the opennebula folks
> to make the plugin generic enough to tie to their marketplace.
> 
> Thoughts ? (not too many flames, it's christmas soon :) )
> 
> -Sebastien
> 
> 
> On Dec 13, 2012, at 10:56 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 02:08:00PM +0000, Hugo Trippaers wrote:
> >> Getting a bit late into the discussion here, but i agree with Chip here.
> >>
> >> I'm already uncomfortable with the idea for a marketplace inside
> >> CloudStack, but providing just the features allow some external party
> >> (or parties) to set something up should be ok. But neither the ASF
> >> nor we as a community should maintain such a marketplace. We as a
> >> community are responsible for maintaining and distributing the
> >> CloudStack source code, initiatives like a market place seem better
> >> suited to a commercial entity or another group that is not directly
> >> related to maintaining the source code of CloudStack.
> >
> > +1
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > jzb
> > --
> > Joe Brockmeier
> > http://dissociatedpress.net/
> > Twitter: @jzb


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