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From Facundo Guerrero <fguerr...@ipaddress.com.ar>
Subject Re: Multiple IP's to one instance
Date Wed, 21 Nov 2012 20:45:43 GMT
 The multiples IP's for nic's it's also a great feature to use heartbeat in
the vms .

*Facundo Guerrero*
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2012/11/21 Jonathan Bastin <jonathan.bastin@peerpointinternet.co.uk>

> Personally for immediate requirements multiple IP's per nic would surfice
> but also multiple nics to different networks as well could be a request.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hari Kannan [mailto:hari.kannan@citrix.com]
> Sent: 21 November 2012 20:05
> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Multiple IP's to one instance
>
> It is an interesting topic - as I see it, there seem to be some
> hypervisors/OS limitations (on virtual environments) that, while allowing
> multiple nics per VM, limit the number - so, by extending in 2 dimensions
> (multiple nics per vm and multiple ips per nics), you can extend the number
> of IPs per VM - for that reason, I can see the benefit. Another reason,
> could be that AWS supports both, so stay compatible and competitive, we may
> need to consider it. Plus, there may be technical challenges in
> implementing
> multiple nics in a Basic network zone (this I'm not sure, esp if it is even
> possible to have multiple IPs per nic on basic zone)..
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Boylan, James [mailto:JAMES.BOYLAN@orbitz.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 11:46 AM
> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Multiple IP's to one instance
>
> Single NIC. I can definitely seeing situations where you would want to have
> multiple interfaces for managing the traffic within a VM. But I don't
> really
> see the real benefit in a cloud environment for having a number of IPs
> assigned to one NIC. (Cloud environment not just a virtual environment.)
>
> -- James
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hari Kannan [mailto:hari.kannan@citrix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 1:42 PM
> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Multiple IP's to one instance
>
> @James: Are you saying there is no benefit in having a single VM having
> multiple IPs or a single NIC having multiple IPs?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan Bastin [mailto:jonathan.bastin@peerpointinternet.co.uk]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 11:41 AM
> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Multiple IP's to one instance
>
> But if customer requests it then you need to provide it. May people use IP
> locking than port locking for SSL certs.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Boylan, James [mailto:JAMES.BOYLAN@orbitz.com]
> Sent: 21 November 2012 19:37
> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Multiple IP's to one instance
>
> I don't actually see the benefit of this. It really goes against the whole
> point of a Cloud environment. You shouldn't find yourself in a situation
> where you need multiple IPs per interface.
>
> -- James
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan Bastin [mailto:jonathan.bastin@peerpointinternet.co.uk]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 1:35 PM
> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Multiple IP's to one instance
>
> I said to fill my request it would need to work on advanced with the guest
> network as this is where the pool sits. I also request this on a shared and
> an isolated network.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anthony Xu [mailto:Xuefei.Xu@citrix.com]
> Sent: 21 November 2012 19:29
> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Multiple IP's to one instance
>
> Where is FS for this feature? Will this feature be added to basic zone? If
> that's the case, Security group needs to be changed, otherwise the second
> IP
> will not work because of anti-spoofing.
>
> Anthony
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jonathan Bastin [mailto:jonathan.bastin@peerpointinternet.co.uk]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 11:11 AM
> > To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: Multiple IP's to one instance
> >
> > I suggested that a few emails back and ultimately that is the quickest
> > way and a dev did post back to say they were working on it for release
> > 4.1 if it makes it.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Clayton Weise [mailto:cweise@iswest.net]
> > Sent: 21 November 2012 18:23
> > To: cloudstack-users
> > Subject: RE: Multiple IP's to one instance
> >
> > Given that limitation, couldn't CloudStack just take whatever steps
> > necessary to make sure that the IP address doesn't get assigned to
> > anything else and let the user manually add that second address?  It
> > just seems easier
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Facundo Guerrero [mailto:fguerrero@ipaddress.com.ar]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:50 AM
> > To: cloudstack-users
> > Subject: Re: Multiple IP's to one instance
> >
> > KVM has a limit of 8 nic's per VM. and there is no limit for multimes
> > ip's on the same nic.
> >
> > *Facundo Guerrero*
> > *System Administrator*
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> > fguerrero@ipaddress.com.ar
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2012/11/21 Chip Childers <chip.childers@sungard.com>
> >
> > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Anthony Xu <Xuefei.Xu@citrix.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > CS manages User VM IP through DHCP service, I'm not sure DHCP can
> > > deliver two IPs for one MAC/NIC.
> > > > I agree that multiple NICs is easier than multiple IPs on same NIC.
> > >
> > > Since they are virtual hardware anyway, it's logical to just create
> > > new interfaces instead of dealing with the difficulties of multiple
> > > IPs per NIC.
> > >
> > > > Anthony
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Matthew Hartmann [mailto:mhartmann@tls.net]
> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:54 AM
> > > >> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
> > > >> Subject: RE: Multiple IP's to one instance
> > > >>
> > > >> What would be really neat is if you could have multiple NICs per
> > VM
> > > >> without having to have multiple virtual networks. For example, if
> > > >> I'm hosting a shared web server and need to host multiple SSL
> > > >> websites, I'm going to need not just multiple public IPs but
> > > >> multiple NICs as well on the VM. IMO, I believe this would be
> > > >> easier than trying to manage multiple IPs on one VIF.
> > > >>
> > > >> Matthew Hartmann
> > > >> Systems Administrator | V: 812.378.4100 x 850 | E:
> > > >> mhartmann@tls.net
> > > >>
> > > >> TLS.NET, Inc.
> > > >> http://www.tls.net
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Jonathan Bastin
> > > >> [mailto:Jonathan.Bastin@peerpointinternet.co.uk]
> > > >> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:35 PM
> > > >> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
> > > >> Subject: Re: Multiple IP's to one instance
> > > >>
> > > >> It should be what ever the user wishes to allocate per single nic
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards,
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Jonathan Bastin
> > > >> 07739668262
> > > >>
> > > >> ----- Reply message -----
> > > >> From: "Anthony Xu" <Xuefei.Xu@citrix.com>
> > > >> To: "cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org"
> > > >> <cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org>
> > > >> Subject: Multiple IP&apos;s to one instance
> > > >> Date: Mon, Nov 19, 2012 18:21
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 'multiple IP's per NIC on guest VM'
> > > >>
> > > >> Does that mean there is one NIC in guest VM, and there are more
> > > >> than one IPs on this guest NIC?
> > > >>
> > > >> Can you elaborate more how you are going to implement it?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Anthony
> > > >>
> > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > From: Jayapal Reddy Uradi
> > > >> > [mailto:jayapalreddy.uradi@citrix.com]
> > > >> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 3:50 AM
> > > >> > To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
> > > >> > Subject: RE: Multiple IP's to one instance
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I will  work on this feature 'multiple IP's per NIC on guest
VM'.
> > > >> Hope
> > > >> > fully it will come in  4.1 release.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks,
> > > >> > Jayapal
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > On 16/11/12 4:20 PM, "Geoff Higginbottom"
> > > >> > > <geoff.higginbottom@shapeblue.com> wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > >This gets my vote
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >Regards
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >Geoff
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > >From: Jonathan Bastin
> > > >> > [mailto:jonathan.bastin@peerpointinternet.co.uk]
> > > >> > > >Sent: 16 November 2012 10:00
> > > >> > > >To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
> > > >> > > >Subject: RE: Multiple IP's to one instance
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >Everybody wanting this please vote for it and see if
we can
> > > >> > > >get
> > > >> this
> > > >> > to
> > > >> > > >happen.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > >From: Facundo Guerrero [mailto:fguerrero@ipaddress.com.ar]
> > > >> > > >Sent: 16 November 2012 03:25
> > > >> > > >To: cloudstack-users
> > > >> > > >Subject: Re: Multiple IP's to one instance
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >I not use the dhcp server to assign the ip into the
vm. i
> > only
> > > >> made
> > > >> > nat
> > > >> > > >1:1 to other ip's in the network, then i add the new
ip into
> > > >> > > >the
> > > >> vm
> > > >> > as
> > > >> > > >eth0:1, eth0:2.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >Jira link >
> > > >> > > >https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-24
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >I'll send you the modifications that i made to the script.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >2012/11/15 Clayton Weise <cweise@iswest.net>
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >> Also, what is your bug ID for this feature request
so we
> > can
> > > >> vote
> > > >> > on it.
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > >> From: Facundo Guerrero [mailto:fguerrero@ipaddress.com.ar]
> > > >> > > >> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 5:00 PM
> > > >> > > >> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
> > > >> > > >> Subject: Re: Multiple IP's to one instance
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> Jonathan
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> Thats is not possible yet, i open a feature request
asking
> > > >> > > >> for
> > > >> > this.
> > > >> > > >> I made some hacks on the virtual router to add
more that
> > > >> > > >> open IP
> > > >> > on
> > > >> > > >> the same
> > > >> > > >VM.
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> 2012/11/15 Jonathan Bastin
> > > >> > <jonathan.bastin@peerpointinternet.co.uk>
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> > I have made a guest network (cloudstack implementation
> > > >> advanced
> > > >> > > >> > networking) with live IP's that is a shared
network.
> > > >> > > >> > What I
> > > >> want
> > > >> > to
> > > >> > > >> > know
> > > >> > > >> is
> > > >> > > >> > how to I assign more than one IP to an instance
without
> > > >> > > >> > using
> > > >> an
> > > >> > > >> > isolated network with a router. I literally
want to
> > assign
> > > >> > > >> > say
> > > >> 5
> > > >> > > >> > IP's to one instance.
> > > >> > > >> >
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