Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-users-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-users-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE723DE9E for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 05:11:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 39899 invoked by uid 500); 13 Oct 2012 05:11:15 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-users-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 39860 invoked by uid 500); 13 Oct 2012 05:11:15 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cloudstack-users-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 39837 invoked by uid 99); 13 Oct 2012 05:11:14 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 05:11:14 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS,URIBL_DBL_SPAM X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of outbackdingo@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.210.175] (HELO mail-ia0-f175.google.com) (209.85.210.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 05:11:06 +0000 Received: by mail-ia0-f175.google.com with SMTP id b35so2514834iac.6 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 22:10:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=E0qrS/zF8t2N3NYCuJKh9TI+pYNXuXRXGPmDxxvl0LY=; b=hsjcVep5SDKyP3kMSHeVmtq5UXPnJXSac92Del77K0fpBFeUv88g+G9QaDyPy1fzsg DFOuRpDZlhBf4M9JLnbirY1IB2iWNwl0shGErSwBo2Q97ILNwN9yEQiG8VpETsn8wsRR lFDQNPUNQwnZOH3N8VwDdMuyLpiEw0MfVV8l74ZvyCAnZnY6nLOg9Mm/WKraYZpvROm6 tAZpYwUPsVIjgoAnJ/Kx4t7rSOgGGzTzXPmWEADsuHU+LvGQCdVm3+m+DW5Nx6lQhOML XkFnNs1C04KEAQ+uHTAWSIy8TbXlJxvcY4J4Ts/A7iUTk30RkWmW2K3ITxL1zQS5ihIn HNMA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.203.34 with SMTP id kn2mr3812523igc.71.1350105044279; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 22:10:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.72.135 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 22:10:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2c20e36d$3c1f2a40$2ef084ba$@cloudcentral.com.au> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 01:10:44 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Gartner review - a bunch of Monkeys throwing SHIT! From: Outback Dingo To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org Cc: kris@cloudcentral.com.au Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=14dae9340e6792e1e004cbe9d397 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --14dae9340e6792e1e004cbe9d397 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 1:07 AM, Frans Thamura wrote: > agree, the monkey that says we are the monkey.. mmm... we must prove > which one the real monkey.. > > F In Todays Gartner news a New Open Stack Logo was just released > > On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Kristoffer Sheather - Cloud Central > wrote: >> Interesting. Monkeys are everywhere! >> >> ---------------------------------------- >> From: bruce.m@v365.com.au >> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 3:51 PM >> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org >> Subject: Gartner review - a bunch of Monkeys throwing SHIT! >> >> !!WARNING!! >> this email contains foul language and an honest >> opinion. AKA have the balls to say what i think. >> >> Every one involved >> with CloudStack should probably take this bullshit 'opinion' from >> gartner as what it is >> >> B U L L S H I T! >> >> were locked into every bloody >> thing you don't want to be, (storage, network, hyper visor, even power >> and rack space, etc) and have to keep paying and paying. it never stops. >> so to have some relief to that with opensource like Ubuntu, Cloud-stack >> etc That is where real innovation happens. >> >> and yes FUCKING MICROSOFT >> AND ALL THE OTHERS ARE BROKEN, windows never really improves its more BS >> on the previous BS version. esxi5 has some new bells and whistles, but >> essentially its the same ole BULLSHIT again. Now apple are on the shit >> bandwagon with IPhone 5... Stupid shit throwing monkeys. >> >> They are all >> driven by some bunch of marketing monkeys, senior executive monkeys. who >> throw shit at each other all day. (advertising) While the real people >> who invent and create, get shoved in the back room or sacked, IE the >> engineers are the real value. >> >> OR >> >> a group of shit throwing monkeys, >> buys that shit lock stock and barrel (acquisition) and sacks every one, >> well no just the engineers usually. >> >> im a senior engineer who's worked >> for IBM, HP etc for 20 years and ive seen it over and over again... some >> ole cycle. >> >> Goes like this... >> >> 1. some cleaver engineer monkey invents >> something. wow a virtual fart! amazing! >> 2. some dumb ass manager steals >> it and claims all the lime light because they are extroverted and love >> that shit. >> 3. engineer get forgotten, like the fart. >> 4. company >> marketing monkeys start throwing shit at customer saying look how >> cleaver we are >> pay us money for our shit... >> 5. shit sells like hot cakes >> for a while. >> 6. then people realize its just... well... brown, smelly, >> pile of shit. >> 7. then some other bunch of monkeys start with something >> new. hey look at our shit its better! >> 8. so another bunch of monkeys >> like the gartner group, paid by the 2nd bunch of monkeys say negative >> shit about the 1st bunch of monkeys crap! >> 9. Other monkeys stop throwing >> crap and then buy shit from other bunch of monkeys, yes there's crap >> too. >> 10. Only to realize ...its just... well... brown, smelly, pile of >> shit. >> >> at the end there are alot of monkeys with lots of shit, and other >> with lots of money. and a bunch of engineers with no job. and have to >> come up with new smelly pile of shit, or some new shit. >> >> either way can >> we get over this stupid cycle of shit (he says / she says) and evolve >> out of being a bunch of monkeys throwing shit for a while? and don't >> even think about monkeys going to their other favorite pastime.......... >> masturbating...!!! >> >> Open source is a chance to break the cycle. any one >> else say something different, then hes throwing more shit. >> >> --14dae9340e6792e1e004cbe9d397--