Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-users-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-users-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 54FECDD9F for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 01:51:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 26182 invoked by uid 500); 14 Oct 2012 01:51:33 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-users-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 26161 invoked by uid 500); 14 Oct 2012 01:51:33 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cloudstack-users-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 26153 invoked by uid 99); 14 Oct 2012 01:51:33 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 01:51:33 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,PLING_QUERY,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [203.170.85.160] (HELO rsl-cp3.per.syra.net.au) (203.170.85.160) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 01:51:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42975 helo=rsl-cp3.syra.net.au) by rsl-cp3.per.syra.net.au with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TNDM6-00028B-5F for cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:51:02 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_96f222c642e844e6b5fad00f1d9a8b6b" Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:51:01 +0800 From: bruce.m@v365.com.au To: Subject: OpenStack Cloud - lets show the world how its =?UTF-8?Q?done!=3F?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <623ab90efb20445e2575cc75f1d7829b@v365.com.au> X-Sender: bruce.m@v365.com.au User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.6 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - rsl-cp3.per.syra.net.au X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - incubator.apache.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - v365.com.au X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --=_96f222c642e844e6b5fad00f1d9a8b6b Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hello, yes, we don't need to accept and react to what other "dicks" say, as they seem to have their own agenda. Monkey see Monkey do mentality. So if others are throwing crap, then lets all throw crap???? Whhhaaattttt ??? ... is that a mature response.... think about it perhaps for a few microseconds.... before you put finger to keyboard! Its really a sad endorsement on human civilization how backward things are becoming because of defamatory comments on face book and twitter, or a commercial group like Gartner. Politics in IT/Engineering.... Who would have though!!! LOL they can take their politics and shove it! The reaction is often anger and further retaliatory angry comments, everyone gets embroiled on the bandwagon, and it escalates/snowballs to personal attacks etc, to vent their anger or points of view. How many of them would say that to your face, or a board of directors? Lets all agree to ignore it and not react, use it constructively to improve Cloudstack. In a word, be MATURE. As a user of cloud stack i can say this. When there is a problem, it gets fixed, and alot faster than in traditional software dev houses, because its your code, your own piece of something that makes a greater whole. You and we the community are proud of that achievement, as its no small feat! Nothing worth building will get done in a day, and if we are all united and strong, and don't get tempted to join the other Monkeys in this world. then we can advance IT forward... god know it needs to move on atm. so be STRONG and be PROUD! CloudStack is growing up very quickly! Bruce. On 14.10.2012 01:11, David Nalley wrote: > Hi folks: > > So a couple of comments. > I appreciate the level of passion seen in this thread - it tells me > that people love CloudStack. That said, open source projects competing > among themselves is almost always fruitless. The world is large enough > for two, three, or more open source IaaS projects. (Just like the > world is big enough for PostgreSQL and MySQL; Red Hat, Ubuntu, SLES, > Slackware, and others.) In short, this project's goal is not to beat > OpenStack. The goal is to be a useful, stable, community-led > Infrastructure-as-a-Service open source project. > > When you see articles that contain misinformation, it's perfect > acceptable to provide corrections. It's also important to catch what > they see as legitimate defects - file those as bugs, and lets correct > them. Far more valuable though, IMO, is that we spend our time doing > the the following two things: > 1. Testing, fixing, and documenting Apache CloudStack so that it is > the best IaaS platform available. (Have you tested the latest 4.0.0 RC > builds?) > 2. Telling the story of how/why we use CloudStack (notice I didn't say > why it's better, or why it beats $foo project) > > To that end, John Kinsella has been working with Apache Infrastructure > to get an Apache CloudStack planet setup where we can aggregate such > blogs, so watch for updates on this front and consider aggregating > your blog there, but don't hesitate to start blogging now :) > > --David --=_96f222c642e844e6b5fad00f1d9a8b6b--