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From Gavin Lee <>
Subject Re: backup a cloudstack deployment
Date Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:50:06 GMT
Below is just my assumption:
Storage hardware should make sure no data lost, the solution in this
layer may be easy but expensive in CloudStack's perspective.
CloudStack provides schedule snapshot[1] is just for your convenience,
with backuped DB, you can easily restore the whole cloud. But hardware
failure may still cause some data lose in 2 scheduled snapshots or
even corruptted for incremental snapshot.  The progress of Take
snapshot and restore to VM is also time consumption.

Using DFS(eg: ceph) as primary/secondary storage is similiar,  the DFS
itself needs to keep data intact. And currently it's not fully

[1] snapshot in cloudstack is volume backup rather than vm snapshot at
this moment.

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Paco Orozco <> wrote:
> Hi Julien,
> Good point! We have a private IaaS cloud and we have the same question.
> At the beginning documentation and forums recommends to backup MySQL DB
> and the secondary storage.
> I'm using Cloudstack and Xen servers with LVM as a primary storage.
> I'm doing it but I've got some not solved questions.
> 1) Geoff says "You should have every VM running a Scheduled Snapshot
> routine, that way if you have a disaster, you can recreate your
> architecture, and restore VMs from Snapshots / Templates". When you
> schedule this snapshot routine it will create snaps on secondary
> storage. Does this snaps count as a consumed resources for users? Must
> they will pay for it? Can users delete them?
> 2) I'm now testing a solution for PHD in order to do VM backups from Xen
> Server. Are you using Xen or KVM/VMware?
> 3) I need to protect myself from harware failures (mirroring) and
> software or human errors (backup). Are you only using mirror?
> Thanks
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