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From Jason Davis <scr...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: CLoudStack and OpenFiler2.99
Date Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:31:18 GMT
Hence why you should consider NFS for management simplicity :)

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Clayton Weise <cweise@iswest.net> wrote:

> If it's a LUN, it's a block device.  You can't just look in "/" and find
> it.  In the case of XenServer, it creates a CLVM device for the iSCSI or FC
> LUN and that logical volume is shared amongst all of the hosts in the
> cluster.  Then, for each virtual disk (VDI) you create XenServer creates an
> LVM "partition" (partition isn't actually the correct technical term, but
> it's the easiest way to express it) for that virtual disk.  So essentially,
> each virtual disk is another LVM partition.
>
> It's not a filesystem, it's not like NFS.  You can't just browse into it,
> in the same way you can't just plug in a hard drive and browse into that
> either.  You need a filesystem on top of the block device that you then
> need to mount.
>
> If you're used to iSCSI or FC with VMware the reason you can browse into a
> block device is because VMware formats the device with a filesystem called
> VMFS.  In the case of XenServer, there is no file system, just block
> devices that are handed to individual virtual machines.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: claude bariot [mailto:clobariot@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 7:31 AM
> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: CLoudStack and OpenFiler2.99
>
> Thanks for this precision.
>
> Bat, How can I display datas (VMs Root DISKs) on the Lun ?
> I'll need to do ls command into the storage server or not /
> How can I find stored directory when I would like to display files ...
>
> regards
>
>
> On 18 September 2012 16:14, Jason Davis <scr512@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Remember that if you will be presenting LUNs to your XenServer Cluster,
> > that the LUN is effectively shared between all hosts within the
> cluster...
> > ie: LUNs are not tied to a specific host per say.
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:38 AM, claude bariot <clobariot@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > We'll using XenServer as Hypervisor.
> > > My boss prefere to create same Luns with OpenFiler, then each Lun will
> be
> > > attached to Xen Host.
> > >
> > > May be we can use it as a local primary storage.
> > >
> > > I know that, We can add PS via CS UI.
> > >
> > > On 18 September 2012 15:21, Jason Davis <scr512@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ah time to chime in :)
> > > >
> > > > I would recommend using NFS for primary and secondary storage... NFS
> is
> > > > *much* more straight forward. That and VM's provisioned via NFS are
> > > > inherently thin. With iSCSI this may or may not be true (dependent on
> > > what
> > > > hypervisor is being used.)
> > > >
> > > > Based on what you are setting up, the theoretical speed advantages of
> > > iSCSI
> > > > vs NFSv3 are moot.
> > > >
> > > > -Jason
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:23 AM, claude bariot <clobariot@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > One more question :
> > > > > How can I find files (for Primary and Secondary Storage) When there
> > are
> > > > > using Iscsi device (Luns) ?
> > > > >
> > > > > regards
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 18 September 2012 10:30, claude bariot <clobariot@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I building a testbed plateform.
> > > > > > Could you let me know, the pest precedures (best way) for
> configure
> > > it.
> > > > > > I have 2 hosts (xenserver), 1 Mangement server (Ubuntu 10.04)
1
> > > storage
> > > > > > server with OpenFiler
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I need the process please ..
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > regards
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 17 September 2012 23:51, Geoff Higginbottom <
> > > > > > geoff.higginbottom@shapeblue.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Hi Claude,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> We have frequently used OpenFiler on our test and proof
of
> concept
> > > > (POC)
> > > > > >> builds, however to be fair none of our clients have ever
used it
> > in
> > > a
> > > > > >> production environment.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Regards
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Geoff
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On 17 Sep 2012, at 14:45, "claude bariot" <clobariot@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Hello
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Someone has already used CloudStack with OpenFiler as storage
> > > > > management ?
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> > and
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combined
> > > with
> > > > > >> CloudStack technology, allows IT Service Providers and
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> > > to
> > > > > >> deliver true, utility based, IaaS to the customer or end-user.
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