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Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:35:43 -0600
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Subject: Re: Navigation concept
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I think the 3d effect could be useful as it does allow for a hidden
menu and still shows the entire page. It does buy real-estate in spite
of being fancy. I think it could probably be smoothed out a bit though
so it's not so jarring.

One thing about the slide out is that it moves a chunk of the main
content out of the window (for me). The alternative would be to slide
out over it, also less than ideal but I guess you probably don't
necessarily need to have access to that content while navigating.

Would it be possible to shrink the main content rather than rotate it
or slide it out of view? Sort of like an "expose" view on the mac
(four finger swipe down) that brings up the dock and your current
window. That way all of the content is still visible, you gain the
real-estate you were looking for, and it's a shiny effect without
seeming frivolous.

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Sonny Chhen <Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com> wrote:
> Thanks Chip. Will be proposing more ideas for the dashboard, notification, and general ui fixes in the coming weeks.
>
> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>
> Sonny H. Chhen
> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems - CloudPlatform
> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA  95054, USA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:54 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Navigation concept
>
> Please do keep proposing ideas though Sonny!  Obviously design is always iterative, and feedback's how to get to the best result...
> (I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir here, but I wanted to say thanks
> anyway)
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Sonny Chhen <Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com> wrote:
>> Thanks for the feedback Chip. It seems that the sliding navigation may be the better route in this case. We may have the same slide down effect in another iteration of the notification as most people seem to miss the counter.
>>
>> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>>
>> Sonny H. Chhen
>> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems -
>> CloudPlatform
>> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA  95054, USA
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:46 AM
>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Cc: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Navigation concept
>>
>> Sonny,
>>
>> The 3-D effect is actually kind of jarring.  Using that daily would probably cause some frustration.
>>
>> Personally, I'm a fan of minimal animation...  and when it does exist, for it to be fast and visually meaningful.
>>
>> -chip
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Will Chan <will.chan@citrix.com> wrote:
>>> I personally would like it if the navigation would just slide out.  The 3d stuff although is "cool", doesn't seem to add anything useful in terms of UX.  In fact, I would argue it makes it slightly less useful because the text become blurry.
>>>
>>> Also, I assume this required HTML5 and building something like this prevents users of older browsers the ability to use this unless you plan on having supporting multiple navigation models.
>>>
>>> Will
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Sonny Chhen [mailto:Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:44 AM
>>>> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-
>>>> dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>> Subject: UI: Navigation concept
>>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> In an effort to gain more screen real estate, a few front-end
>>>> developers and I have been playing around with changing the
>>>> navigation and are researching a few things like max and min width
>>>> in the css. Below is a link to a sample of a "3d cubed" based
>>>> navigation. Would love to hear thoughts regarding this idea. We are
>>>> still working on some of the more requested items in the
>>>> feedback(too many clicks, easier accessibility, etc...) but are taking things step by step.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.schhen.com/citrix/demos/demo5/
>>>>
>>>> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks You and Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Sonny H. Chhen
>>>> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems -
>>>> CloudPlatform
>>>> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA  95054, USA
>>>
>>>
>>