Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-users-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-users-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D8A696C0 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 17:43:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 96291 invoked by uid 500); 7 Aug 2012 17:43:25 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-users-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 96264 invoked by uid 500); 7 Aug 2012 17:43:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cloudstack-users-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 96256 invoked by uid 99); 7 Aug 2012 17:43:25 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 17:43:24 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com designates 66.165.176.89 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.165.176.89] (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.89) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 17:43:19 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,728,1336363200"; d="scan'208";a="33864111" Received: from sjcpmailmx01.citrite.net ([10.216.14.74]) by FTLPIPO01.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 07 Aug 2012 13:42:57 -0400 Received: from SJCPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.216.4.72]) by SJCPMAILMX01.citrite.net ([10.216.14.74]) with mapi; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 10:42:21 -0700 From: Sonny Chhen To: "cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org" Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 10:42:20 -0700 Subject: RE: really bad UI design Thread-Topic: really bad UI design Thread-Index: Ac10wz+FKFOWYnwRTx6Y9sNxnxMkSQAADRbA Message-ID: <7914B38A4445B34AA16EB9F1352942F1012F0E1E9040@SJCPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Hello, Thank you for your feedback. We are constantly working to improve the UIX o= f CloudStack as well as new features that are being implemented. I believe = the first issue you mentioned already has a bug attached to it in Jira and= we are working to rectify it. Can you please file an "improvement" ticket = at http://bugs.cloudstack.org for the second issue you mentioned? We apprec= iate all forms of feedback and look to improving CloudStack to its full pot= ential. Thanks You and Best Regards, Sonny H. Chhen Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems - CloudPlatfor= m 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA=A0 95054, USA=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=20 -----Original Message----- From: mpatton@inforelay.com [mailto:mpatton@inforelay.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 10:35 AM To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org Subject: really bad UI design I realize I'm new to CloudStack and all but these errors are so fundamental= they shouldn't exist in the first place let alone after all this time. 1. no password confirmation when changing value - the field is hidden so yo= u can't see what you typed. Either visually un-hide what the user is typing= or at the very LEAST have a 2nd field where they must repeat their entry. Furthermore, it is standard practice to require the user to provide the old= password before accepting a new value. 2. In user management, clearly there is the concept of groups if evidenced = only in the silliness of "accounts/admin/users/admin" before one can change= the 'admin' user account's password. At the very least introduce the word = "group" at the top level. I suggest renaming the 'admin' group to 'cloud ad= mins' or 'super-users' or something that denotes their supreme rights.